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The Original Sun of God- Happy Mithris!

 
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The Original Sun of God- Happy Mithris!
Got this from What Really Happened:

The Original Sun of God
By Dennis Diehl Platinum Quality Author

The history of sun worship, so seemingly foreign to the Western mind has, in fact, manifested itself into Christianity in many ways as the story of Jesus in the Gospels. So little was known about the life of Jesus, any and all writing styles from Midrash (searching past scriptures for "hints" of how they might apply to the present) to discerning the story of the Zodiac and it's constellations were used to fill in what was clearly missing in the literal record.

Consider our "modern" terms, Horizon and Sun Set. These terms belie their ancient history. Horus-sun (Horizon) was sunrise as Horus was the Egyptian god of light and the day light portion of the 24 hour cycle. Set, was the god of darkness and night. He came on the scene at "Sun Set" and is the Jackal headed god of the Egyptian underworld. When we say "what a beautiful Sun Set," we don't realize we are speaking as one might in ancient Egypt. Darkness was the time of Set, god of darkness. Night time was not a good time in most ancient mythologies. This is why many a priest stood every morning acting as if by incantation and arm waving, he could bring back the Sun/Son from the Underworld of darkness and fear. The sun descending into hell is something it did every Sun-Set. There was relief every morning when the sun/son was reborn.

Set murdered Osiris and in turn, Horus, son of Osiris, killed Set. Sunrise on the Horus-Sun defeats the night which began at Sun Set. Pretty cool huh? Jesus struggles with Satan (Set or Sata) in just the same way Horus battles with Set. It's all dualism. It's Light and Dark, good and evil, God and Satan.

"Set kills Osiris and scatters his body, then claims the throne of the gods for his own. He is later struck down by Horus, the son of Osiris, who restores order to the world and sets up the pharaohs as the guardians of Maat. Set and Horus continue to battle for control of the world, setting up an epic conflict of good versus evil." (Light and Dark) David C. Scott Website. Gods and Mythology of Egypt.

Consider the fact that Jesus is surrounded by 12 disciples and the events of Jesus life are like the Sun of God surrounded by the 12 signs of the Zodiac that make up the way of the sun across the heavens in one year. Just as the 12 sons of Jacob and the 12 tribes of Israel are astro-theology personified and are in fact references to the zodiac and the story it tells. We might not watch the heavens anymore, and we know precious little about the zodiac, the characters and the revolving story they tell, but the ancients lived by it and from it sprang their story. Add the planets and it was easy to add the wandering plagues of war, family, plague and death.

For instance, many of the world's crucified god men have their traditional birthday on December 25th ("Christmas"). This was a basic understanding we had in WCG and was not off the mark. Today, there is many times more material to show this connection.

This is because the ancients recognized that (from an earthcentric perspective) the sun makes an annual descent southward until December 21st or 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops moving southerly for three days and then starts to move northward again. During this time, the ancients declared that "God's sun" had "died" for three days and was "born again" on December 25th. So Xmas really is the Birthday of the SUN/SON in every way.

The ancients realized quite abundantly that they needed the sun to return every day and that they would be in big trouble if the sun continued to move southward and did not stop and reverse its direction. Thus, these many different cultures celebrated the "sun of God's" birthday on December 25th.

Characteristics of the Sun of God

The sun "dies" for three days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops in its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.

In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin. In December, the Virgin, the constellation Virgo precedes sunrise and thus, "Behold, a Virgin shall bring forth the sun/son."

Remember the alternative explanation of Isa. 14 and "how thou art fallen, oh Lucifer, (light Bringer-Venus precedes sunrise), thou bright and morning star," (Venus). Remember how Venus appears to rise and then descends back into the earth and how this IS the origin of the story of Satan's fall for trying to ascend to God's Throne, which is astro-theologically NOON. Everyone sees "Satan fall as lightening from heaven" at one time or another during the year if you know what Venus looks like just before Sun rise on the Horus-sun, or even shortly after Sun-Set.

Something that bright got humanity's attention and the stories of it's apparent motion followed and then were literalized by the theologically ignorant. Venus always was and always will be a planet on the inside orbit between earth and the sun. It behaves as it does because it is as it is. Whole theologies have grown up around that which could not then be explained but now can be easily explained. Once you have the true explanation, you can drop the false one.

The Jesus story in the gospels may also be the story of the Sun/Son of God.

The sun is the "Light of the World." Just as Jesus. The sun "cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him." Just as Jesus. The sun rising in the morning is the "Savior of mankind." Just as Jesus. The sun wears a corona, "crown of thorns" or halo. Just as Jesus. The sun "walks on water." Just as Jesus. The sun can turn water (rain) into wine (grapes) Just as Jesus. The sun's "followers," "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. Just as Jesus. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High"; thus, "he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. Just as Jesus. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30°; (30x12=360 degrees) hence, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. Just as Jesus. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified," which represents its passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. Just as Jesus.

Consider the following.

The rejection of Abel's grain offering (Agricultural Goddess and fertility recognition of the religions surrounding Israel) and the acceptance of Cain's (roasted meat) offering was a symbol of the change to come in Israel from Matriarchy and female based religion, to Patriarchy, Priesthood and cultic temple worship and sacrifices. The story is not true, the message was clear! Women are now property and men own them, no matter what the "pagan" nations around practice or respect in the mysteries of the feminine and fertility. (sex if you must know!)

Little has changed in the Christian Patriarchy since which is why for years I allowed myself to say the words, "who gives this woman..." in marriage ceremonies. I stopped including that in the wedding ceremony at the end. The Father always formally transferred his property to the qualified and selected male and I had to be the priest in the middle negotiating the transaction! Men have had way too much time to screw up the planet and it's time perhaps to let the feminine spirit restore the right side of the brain in humans! It's time to act as the one we really all are inspite of that which divides us.

The physical sun has always fascinated human beings. It "rises" in the east to bring it's warmth, light, and "sets" in the West, plunging the world into darkness with all the associated insecurites and dangers. It was truly a miracle and a most welcomed relief when every morning, the Sun rose from the land of the dead to bring it's light and protection for yet another day. It's cycles and apparent motion through the constellations has told the story of mankind for thousands of years, with all our hopes and fears. The physical Sun has been much of the inspiration of the spiritual son mythologies.

We're all still sun/son worshippers at heart.

Dennis Diehl is a former Church Pastor of 26 years. He now has a therapeutic massage practice in SC.

Article Source: [link to EzineArticles.com]

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Don't know where the Author got this from:

"Consider the following.

The rejection of Abel's grain offering (Agricultural Goddess and fertility recognition of the religions surrounding Israel) and the acceptance of Cain's (roasted meat) offering was a symbol of the change to come in Israel from Matriarchy and female based religion, to Patriarchy, Priesthood and cultic temple worship and sacrifices. The story is not true, the message was clear! Women are now property and men own them, no matter what the "pagan" nations around practice or respect in the mysteries of the feminine and fertility. (sex if you must know!)"

In the Bible, Able's grain offering is ACCEPTED by "God", and Cain's roasted meat offering is not. Cain then kills Able in jealousy.
So one can see here in this article's context, that "God" ACCEPTED the Feminine energy and Matriarchy. The Male energy had to kill the feminine...hence showing the change that would happen as the author continues to describe.

Constantine was very much a Pagan, and made sure that in the Great Councils, the Honoring of the "gods" would continue...
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Here's some more insights. Sorry no link. This was put together by Jon Bond and sent as an e-mail. Old news to some, but I am always fascinated by the links of Christianity to the original Pagan religions, and how they stole these images to create a new religion. This is not a discussion on the existance of Jesus, but how the Church created a religion around him that mimics the ancients to draw all into their net.

JESUS CHRIST
THE PAGAN SUN GOD OF CHRISTIANITY

When I had realized that the Jesus Christ Christians were speaking about, was not the same person I know as Yeshua, I began to investagate this Christian Jesus Christ. This revelation came to me when the vast majority of Christians had made it known to me in no uncertin terms, that they actually believe that their Jesus Christ is GOD, The Almighty, The Heavenly Father. When I came to realize this great error, I began to examine more closely how these people had come to believe that the Jesus Christ they speak of, is their god. I re-examined their theology againts the actual facts and found the answer. These people have come to believe and preach about a man-made, fictitious god they call Je-Zeus Christ. The facts are, that the vast majority of these people, be they Bishops, Priests or Protestant Pastors have little idea or are totally ignorant on where that name, Jesus Christ that they speak about, had originated from. These people do not know that the name Jesus was originally known and spoken as Iesus, which is Latin, the language of the Roman Empire. It was pronounced as Yea-sus or Yea-Zeus by the early heathen christians who had broken away from the true faith and had perverted what the original Apostils of Yeshua had preached that would later become the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches during the latter part of the first to the forth century C.E. This Christian perversion had expanded throughout the known world. During and after the Reformation, this perversion expanded into the new world (the America's) with the help of the Protestants to our present era. The name Jesus is not a Hebrew name. It is of Latin in the original form of Iesus. Iesus was later translated as Jesus in the English language. Iesus is adapted from the Greek, which is the masculine form of the Greek goddess of healing, who was also known as Ieso. One can plainly see that there is absolutely no resemblance between the name of Yeshua, to the Greek substitute of Iesous, or from the Latin Iesus, and then to Jesus in the english language. One wounders why was the name of Yeshua changed when the name of Satan was left unmolested from the Hebrew into English? Yet these Christians choose to change the name of Yeshua into Jesus. So who is this Jesus that Christians claim is their god? This Jesus is none other than Ieso or Iesus whom they call Christ in the Greek was also related to the SUN-GOD Apollo. Remember our friend Emporor Constantine, the first Roman Emperor to become a sort of Christian? He continued to hold fast to his pagan sun god worship while being a Christian. It was this same Constantine that demanded from the newly formed Roman Catholic Church to change the seventh day Sabbath worship to Sunday worship for Christians. It was the worship day of Constantine pagan Sun God, which was on Sunday. Later, it was the same Rome Church that had also put their stamp of approval that claimed that their, Jesus Christ was GOD, totally Divan. Therefore; The name Iesous (Jesus), was derived from Ieso, that can be traced back to a SUN GOD worship. Also, the sons of Zeus (the SKY GOD) had variations of that name-Iasus, Iasion, Iasius! Just as Iaso, Ieso, Iesous are derived from the Greek word for the healing-iasis, we find Isis (Esu) and her son- Horus (HER) were regarded as healing deities also. The abbreviated form of Iesous is Ies or I-H-S (in Greek the capital e is H). Many dictionaries admit that I-H-S is the abbreviation for Ihsous (Iesous). I-H-S is the mystery name that the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches have on their alter, on their vestments, when they say mass. The letters I-H-S is also on their host which they claim is the actual body of their fictitious god, Jesus Christ. The letters IHS represent the name "Jesus" in Greek, I am told. (spelled in Greek iota-eta-sigma- omicron-upsilon- sigma = Iesous). In case you are not aware of it, I-H-S is also the mystery name for Bacchus. So who was Bacchus? Bacchus is a well-known pagan Sun God, and was known in the Old Testament scriptures as Tammuz. You know who Tammuz is? Tammuz was the returning SUN GOD, that was also known as the ICHTHUS or fish. Does this ring a bell? The early pagan Christians used the symbol of the fish to represent their Jesus Christ. The Christmas that Christians celebrate and originally called it Christ-Mass, is the birthday of Tammuz that was held on December 25th. Christianity was founded upon a false god of the pagan Greeks, that became the Roman, Latin CHRIST-Iesous. Who had separated themselves from the true fold of Yeshua as a separate entity called Christianity with their venerable day of the SUN, who worship on the false Sabbath known as Sunday. Regardless how these pagan Christians had arrived to name their fictitious god, Jesus Christ, he is a pagan sun god with a religion that is a throwback from an ancient religion that had believed in a theology which demanded human sacrifices and indulged in cannibalism, as in the eating of the flesh and drinking the blood of its sacrificial human victims in order to appease their god. Do we not find that same sentiment in Christianity? Consider how the early Roman church had bowed down to Constantine' s whim to accept his rule knowing that he would represent Christianity while he would retain much of his belief in his pagan sun god during his life. That they had bowed down to Constantine' s edict to worship on Sun day. That they celebrate Tammuz birthday on December 25 claiming that their fictitious god was born on that day. They did all of these things so that they would be in a position to obtain earthly wealth and power. Consider also this; The Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox priests hold up a monstrance during their high mass . The form of a monstrance is that of a circular window which contain a host, which syombolize the sun. It is surrounded by a silver or gold frame with rays of the sun emitting all around that circular window which contain their god Jesus Christ in the form of a host. Some monstrance have the letters SFS on the sunburst blaze. Each of these letters is a universal symbol for the number 6, so it reads 666! The idenity of the false Anointed One, in this case, the fictitious, man-made god Christians claim to be their god, Jesus Christ. The practice of equating names and letters with numbers is called numerology. This sunburst monstrance with the round host that symbolize the sun (Jesus) encased for the congregation to adore and venerate. Virtually any time the monstrance, which is a pagan sun symbol, is viewed by the congregation, they kneel in submission. A Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox person cannot walk past this sun symbol without acknowledging it by kneeling and or making the sign of the cross with their hands. You find a great many Christians who hold a sun-rise worship service. All of these known facts points to worshipping a sun god no matter how you care to slice it. So now you can fully understand why I call Christians, worshippers of Baal. Now you know how the SUN God name of Iesous had become Jesus Christ in the English translation of the New Testament. Now you can see how the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches, became associated with pagan deities which later in history, Protestant Christianity, which were originally, "Roman Catholic", had broken away from their mother church because of corruption within its system. But while they had broken away from the corruption of their mother church, they had still retained much of her corrupt theology and had followered suite in her footsteps because they read from the very same text that had been altered by the early Roman and Eastern Orthodox churches during the writing of the Hebrew and Greek text that became the formation of the Bible we have today. This same alteration that had been done by the early Roman and Eastern Orthodox churches, (From the second to the forth century CE.) on the text that became the New Testament had also replaced the name of Yeshua the Anointed, to Jesus Christ, and re-created the original person of Yeshua into their fictitious man-made god. These foolish, decieved people who claim to be Christians, who espouse, preach and worship their man-made, fictitious god, Je-Zeus Christ, shall feel the strong anger and wrath of the One and only true GOD, the Heavenly Father for what these people had done and blantantly continue to do despite the fact that the truth is so easy to obtain to those who take the time and effort to find it. It saddens me greatly to know that millions of people have allowed themselves to be deceived by their bishops, priests, preachers and false prophets of perversion. These bishops, priests and preachers could have known the truth if they had searched for it. But they had choosen not to do so. There are also a great many people and false prophets who claim that GOD, or the Holy Spirit is speaking to them, when in truth, are not, not when they claim that Jesus Christ is god, their god. These people, along with those false prophets of Baal are the charlatans of a fictitious pagan god. I had tried my best to warn people of their great error in putting their faith in these charlatans. But as I now reflect upon all that I had written on this subject, I do not believe that they would have taken heed anyway, for they are blind to the truth. So now, you the reader know where the name of Jesus Christ had come from and why Christians claim him to be their god. You can also understand why these bishops, priests, preachers and prophets of Baal are so relentless in their verbal attack on me. They have convicted me of being demon possessed, of being a lier, ignorant on scripture, bad scholarship, and point out mistakes in my grammar in order to evade the facts that I have presented on this web site. They are afraid that the truth will expose their lies and deception and show that their god, their "King" has no clothes on. One can plainly see that within the churches of Christianity, their teachings contradict one another. Why? Because Christianity itself is a collection of contradictions and cannot offer people a clear direction to the true path that will lead people to our Heavenly Father and have everlasting life.
Christians refuse to recognizes that the core of Christianity is the myth of a sun god, the basis of Western Monotheism and Eastern religions. The worship of the sun god was quite universal or "catholic" in the ancient world. It ranged from China and India to Yucatan and Peru. The universality of the sun god myth is indicated here by listing the chief sun gods amongst the nations of the East and the Mediterranean before the advent of the Christian sun god, Jesus Christ.
In Egypt—Osiris, Horus, Serapis, Hermes or Taht (Thoth), Khunsu, Atum (Aten, Adon, the Adonis or Phrygia), Iusa, Iu-sa, Iu-em-hotep.
In Syria—Attis, Sabazius, Zagreus, Cybele (feminine).
In Assyria—Tammuz.
In Babylonia—Shamash, Marduk and Sargon.
In Persia—Mithras and Ahura-Mazda.
In Greece—Orpheus, Bacchus (Dionysus), Achilles, Hercules, Theseus, Perseus, Jason, Prometheus.
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There is so much information out there. It is too bad that people choose to ignore it.
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Very enjoyable,informative read.
Well you know how most people don`t want their religious belief system boat rocked. They feel they are calm and secure with their belief. You are stirring things up.....That makes them nervous
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I think that the effect of information is not always good.

I would hope that rather than just go from believing in their religion to believing what is presented here that people accept that some things dont add up.

Hopefully this would encourage them to investigate and find the middle ground rather than jump from extreme to extreme.

More often than not I though I see those who shut their minds further relying on 'faith' than simple reasoning when presented with information such as this.





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