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Is that you Cheech?
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This has already been thoroughly debunked.

The lights are airplanes approaching Cleveland's Hopkins airport from over Lake Erie. They appear stationary because they are headed towards shore for a number of miles and are being seen from the front.
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You know how to debunk that? You contact the actual airports, hmmmm, there is an idea?

FAA & Cleveland Airports report Lake Erie UFO's Not In Normal Flight Paths, Not Showing Up On Radar and Nothing They Are Doing!!!

MSNBC contacted the FAA and all local Cleveland Airports including Cleveland's Hopkins airport who said

A - These objects are not in normal flight paths

B - That none of these objects were anything
they were doing

C - These objects were not showing up on any of the airports radar as well!




Or you could go to the leader in Aerospace Bigelow Aerospace and ask them because they began investigating these Lake Erie UFO's themselves.

Bigelow Aerospace investigator was Gary Hernandez. Hernandez then that Eugene Ehrlikh gave him the exact coordinates where his sighting had taken place, and when Ehrlikh started questioning the caller, Hernandez told him that "these lights were not of terrestrial origin, but alien, and that there was big money involved in trying to get this technology".

So, Hernandez is calling both Ehrlikh and Hill to investigate the sighting, and he reveals to the first that this is alien technology that we are seeing in the skies above the lake (and if he is correct, in other parts of the world, too), and that there is a lot of money invested in this. And indeed, although he seems to have had more cold feet when talking to Michael, in the beginning of their communication he hinted at the same thing, saying (and I quote): "In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft. As an investigator I must be completely objective with any UFO reports which has had multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are formal Law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience. MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except [sic] they're [sic] conclusion."

Or you could consult the UK Ministry of Defense who revealed the following...

[link to webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk]

In the MOD report it says, amongst a lot of other things that are indeed noteworthy:

"That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood.

Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length. - The UK Ministry of Defence


So, what is known so far about the pulsating orbs of light UFOs showing up worldwide? The following is the conclusions from over 25 years of research and after Italian SETI scientists got involved with much more sophisticated equipment:

The phenomenon is identified as a bright flying object with special characteristics making it unique to science.

The phenomenon is more complex and diverse than expected, indicating more than 1 single kind of phenomenon.

The phenomenon is sometimes made up of separate units that may depart and fly away.

The speed varies from still to 8km per second.

The phenomenon changes course in speeds indicating no mass by physical means.

The phenomenon seems to be able to take on pieces of plasma or energy from the ground whilst passing by.

The phenomenon seems to radiate energy due to the light and frequency change of colour.

Many interesting spectra in the optical and radio frequency range have been detected but more data is needed to draw proper conclusions.

These scientific data are quite sensational! We are dealing with a real existing phenomenon which can be observed even though this is difficult.[11]

For a layman it would be convenient to brush these phenomena off as atmospheric balls of light, which do exist and is an atmospheric phenomenon, and therefore moving back and forth on some atmospheric 'current', but this is not logical when we observe how the orbs move and the typical, precise formations they are taking. It's easy to see that it's not random, and therefore most likely is something controlled by some perhaps higher intelligence.

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How do you debunk an unidentified flying object.

I don't know what it is, you don't know what it is, and that's that.

Unless you have some outrages claims we haven't heard yet?
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lOl

How do you debunk an unidentified flying object.

I don't know what it is, you don't know what it is, and that's that.

Unless you have some outrages claims we haven't heard yet?
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Yes, After years of filming them up close, they finally made contact, in person and face to face. They announced themselves to me and said "We have been called the Anunnaki".
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blinky lights in the sky
ARE unidentified objects.

What we want are images/video
of extra terrestrial
IDENTIFIED flying objects and/or
biological entities.

This video proves nothing just
like all the rest.
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same faker same lake same name same voice, as all his other videos.
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blinky lights in the sky
ARE unidentified objects.


What we want are images/video
of extra terrestrial
IDENTIFIED flying objects and/or
biological entities.

This video proves nothing just
like all the rest.
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Yes that makes them unidentified flying objects does it not?
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same faker same lake same name same voice, as all his other videos.
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Yes, my voice is the same, crazy isn't it?

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lOl

How do you debunk an unidentified flying object.

I don't know what it is, you don't know what it is, and that's that.

Unless you have some outrageous claims we haven't heard yet?
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Yes, After years of filming them up close, they finally made contact, in person and face to face. They announced themselves to me and said "We have been called the Anunnaki".
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jokernotsure
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It became debunkable the minute MLH was noted trolling his garbage.
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Very Serious....

NEW interviews regarding my encountering the Anunnaki and Stories from the History Channel, and World Famous Whitley Strieber And UFOlogist Bill Birnes (UFO Hunters - History Channel)

#1 - Michael Lee Hill appears on Bill Birnes * (UFO Hunters - History Channel - NY Times Best Selling Author) Future Theater Radio!

"This interview is incredible, but in a good way. Lots of Anunnaki, Creatine Kinase (CK) in the blood, and rock and roll." - Bill Birnes

Michael Lee Hill will be our guest tonight. He was on UFO Hunters a while back, and we will be talking about his Lake Erie UFO videos, and much much more.

Show afterglow: Wow! I wasn't kidding when I said that we'd talk about much, much more. This interview is incredible, but in a good way. Lots of Anunnaki, Creatine kinase (CK) in the blood, and rock and roll. Here is a link about Michael to get you up to speed.
[link to wespenre.com]

Listen to the March 2013 interview here...
[link to www.futuretheater.com]

#2 - Whitley Strieber's Unknown Country - The Lake Eerie UFO Case: an Outstanding Report!

Monday, November 19, 2012

It's not often that a UFO case gets such expert treatment as is seen here in Wes Penre's deeply researched and careful analysis of the Michael Lee Hill Lake Eerie UFO case. Noteworthy is the fact that a documentary that was being done by Spike TV on Hill was abruptly cancelled by 'higher authorities.' As many who have gone down that same road know, all too often, UFO related projects are abruptly cancelled for unknown reasons by media at every level. It is hard to believe that some sort of intervention from the outside is routinely suppressing sensible and positive stories about this subject.

Story Source:
[link to wespenre.com]

Read the original source: [link to www.unknowncountry.com]



#3. History Channel - UFO Hunters: Evidence: Michael Lee Hill & Alien Contact!

UFO Hunters: Evidence: Michael Lee Hill & Alien Contact!

UFO Hunters takes a closer look at footage of mysterious orbs or light off the shores of Lake Erie.


[link to www.history.co.uk]
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It became debunkable the minute MLH was noted trolling his garbage.
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Ya, I am very sorry I brought a still unfolding UFO related story here to GLP years before the worlds leading UFOgists took notice and began covering the story

Perhaps if you payed attention and did not view the world though doubt & Fear filled eyes, you may have learned something long ago and been ahead of the game now?

shill
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Very Serious....
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Are you Michael Lee Hill?

I have never heard of you but I just want to confirm it's you on the references you cited.
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Very Serious....


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Que's the Noookies ass~end joke.
The Fat Bastard of Fast Food and finger stringing. MLH.
MLH the forever Corn Nard.
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Very Serious....
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Are you Michael Lee Hill?

I have never heard of you but I just want to confirm it's you on the references you cited.
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Yes, I am Michael Lee Hill. Nice to meet you.
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Eugene Ehrlikh gave him the exact coordinates where his sighting had taken place...
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It's spelled Eugene ERLIQUE.

And by the way, is Eugene still seeing these lights from his apartment every night at the same time? You'd think somebody would have hired a boat by now and gone out for a better look at this amazingly predictable UFO flap.

Oh, that's right. Tom Wertman from MUFON came and investigated and linked every occurrence of Eugene's lights with an incoming plane headed to Hopkins.
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I think it's pretty cool, and I would like for it to be UFOs.

I have traveled all over the world, and wherever I go I look for them, but I haven't seen anything that was definitely extraterrestrial.

The strangest thing I saw was late at night outside of Stillwater, Oklahoma. A strange object passed over me; I would guess a few hundred feet. However, it was a university town so it could have been a cluster of balloons or something, either from a student prank or weather experiment.

It would help for future videos if you added some information:

* Where was it taken (your phone has a GPS, give us latitude and longitude)

* What direction is the camera facing?

* Is the camera pointed at the horizon, or above it? At what angle? Is there anything else in frame that we should know about, like a lake?

* It looks like you used a tripod or other stabilizer. Thanks. It definitely helps.

* Your in-person impressions of what you saw. The video is pretty low-res and I know from experience that what I think I'm seeing in person is really distorted or fuzzy on camera.

Best regards
Freelance Geologytard
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Very Serious....


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Que's the Noookies ass~end joke.
The Fat Bastard of Fast Food and finger stringing. MLH.
MLH the forever Corn Nard.
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You know you have won the battle when all the shills and debunkers have left to say is........."Well, your fat"

Freaken ridiculousness, Judge a tree by the fruit it bares.
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holy shit, three small lights moving in the sky, shot on a shaky hand-cam!

Looks like disclosure has finally arrived!

moran

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Eugene Ehrlikh gave him the exact coordinates where his sighting had taken place...
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It's spelled Eugene ERLIQUE.

And by the way, is Eugene still seeing these lights from his apartment every night at the same time? You'd think somebody would have hired a boat by now and gone out for a better look at this amazingly predictable UFO flap.

Oh, that's right. Tom Wertman from MUFON came and investigated and linked every occurrence of Eugene's lights with an incoming plane headed to Hopkins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


You know how to debunk that? You contact the actual airports, hmmmm, there is an idea?

FAA & Cleveland Airports report Lake Erie UFO's Not In Normal Flight Paths, Not Showing Up On Radar and Nothing They Are Doing!!!

MSNBC contacted the FAA and all local Cleveland Airports including Cleveland's Hopkins airport who said

A - These objects are not in normal flight paths

B - That none of these objects were anything
they were doing

C - These objects were not showing up on any of the airports radar as well!




Or you could go to the leader in Aerospace Bigelow Aerospace who were Mufon/Tom Wertmans bosses at the time and ask them because they began investigating these Lake Erie UFO's themselves and openly DID NOT AGREE WITH TOM WERTMAN.

Bigelow Aerospace investigator was Gary Hernandez. Hernandez then demanded that Eugene Ehrlikh gave him the exact coordinates where his sighting had taken place, and when Ehrlikh started questioning the caller, Hernandez told him that "these lights were not of terrestrial origin, but alien, and that there was big money involved in trying to get this technology".

So, Hernandez is calling both Ehrlikh and Hill to investigate the sighting, and he reveals to the first that this is alien technology that we are seeing in the skies above the lake (and if he is correct, in other parts of the world, too), and that there is a lot of money invested in this. And indeed, although he seems to have had more cold feet when talking to Michael, in the beginning of their communication he hinted at the same thing, saying (and I quote): "In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft. As an investigator I must be completely objective with any UFO reports which has had multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are formal Law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience. MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except [sic] they're [sic] conclusion."

Or you could consult the UK Ministry of Defense who revealed the following...

[link to webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk]

In the MOD report it says, amongst a lot of other things that are indeed noteworthy:

"That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood.

Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length. - The UK Ministry of Defence


So, what is known so far about the pulsating orbs of light UFOs showing up worldwide? The following is the conclusions from over 25 years of research and after Italian SETI scientists got involved with much more sophisticated equipment:

The phenomenon is identified as a bright flying object with special characteristics making it unique to science.

The phenomenon is more complex and diverse than expected, indicating more than 1 single kind of phenomenon.

The phenomenon is sometimes made up of separate units that may depart and fly away.

The speed varies from still to 8km per second.

The phenomenon changes course in speeds indicating no mass by physical means.

The phenomenon seems to be able to take on pieces of plasma or energy from the ground whilst passing by.

The phenomenon seems to radiate energy due to the light and frequency change of colour.

Many interesting spectra in the optical and radio frequency range have been detected but more data is needed to draw proper conclusions.

These scientific data are quite sensational! We are dealing with a real existing phenomenon which can be observed even though this is difficult.[11]

For a layman it would be convenient to brush these phenomena off as atmospheric balls of light, which do exist and is an atmospheric phenomenon, and therefore moving back and forth on some atmospheric 'current', but this is not logical when we observe how the orbs move and the typical, precise formations they are taking. It's easy to see that it's not random, and therefore most likely is something controlled by some perhaps higher intelligence.

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Que's the Noookies ass~end joke.
The Fat Bastard of Fast Food and finger stringing. MLH.
MLH the forever Corn Nard.
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You know you have won the battle when all the shills and debunkers have left to say is........."Well, your fat"

Freaken ridiculousness, Judge a tree by the fruit it bares.
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It's the only truth of your ad·mit·tance in life.
Simply the best logic.
You're a dead beat wannabunder.
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Yes, After years of filming them up close, they finally made contact, in person and face to face. They announced themselves to me and said "We have been called the Anunnaki".
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These would be the Anunnaki who told you Nibiru would be here in 2012.
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'Triangle formation' Well what other formation are 3 lights gonna take?
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Yes, I am Michael Lee Hill. Nice to meet you.
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Great. I always wanted to ask someone who was on such a show a few questions.

First and foremost.
Do you get paid for these shows?
Do you live off this, or do you have another job on the side?

Are others like you who are part of shows like this, making a more than comfortable living off of this?


You might wonder why I start with these questions.
The answer is incentive. I am looking for yours.

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I think it's pretty cool, and I would like for it to be UFOs.

I have traveled all over the world, and wherever I go I look for them, but I haven't seen anything that was definitely extraterrestrial.

The strangest thing I saw was late at night outside of Stillwater, Oklahoma. A strange object passed over me; I would guess a few hundred feet. However, it was a university town so it could have been a cluster of balloons or something, either from a student prank or weather experiment.

It would help for future videos if you added some information:

* Where was it taken (your phone has a GPS, give us latitude and longitude)

* What direction is the camera facing?

* Is the camera pointed at the horizon, or above it? At what angle? Is there anything else in frame that we should know about, like a lake?

* It looks like you used a tripod or other stabilizer. Thanks. It definitely helps.

* Your in-person impressions of what you saw. The video is pretty low-res and I know from experience that what I think I'm seeing in person is really distorted or fuzzy on camera.

Best regards
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Q - * Where was it taken (your phone has a GPS, give us latitude and longitude)

A - I do not own a Cell Phone, The area is The North East Ohio area, Eastlake Ohio to be exact.

Q - * What direction is the camera facing?

A - It depends, North to Northwest, to North East as well. Depending on where they are moving.

Q - * Is the camera pointed at the horizon, or above it? At what angle? Is there anything else in frame that we should know about, like a lake?

A - Yes, the footage is shot over Lake Erie, above the horizon.

Q - * It looks like you used a tripod or other stabilizer. Thanks. It definitely helps.

A - Yes, I bring a Tri-pod and thank you for noticing

Q - * Your in-person impressions of what you saw. The video is pretty low-res and I know from experience that what I think I'm seeing in person is really distorted or fuzzy on camera.

A - I have viewed them with a pair of kick ass Nikon Binoculars and they look exactly the same, A large sphere of multi-colored light with no determinable craft being visible, only super bright balls of light in formation so to speak.
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HOLY SHIT!

WOW!

DUDE! THATS AWESOME!

I AM SO FUCKIN STONED RIGHT NOW!

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Yes, After years of filming them up close, they finally made contact, in person and face to face. They announced themselves to me and said "We have been called the Anunnaki".
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These would be the Anunnaki who told you Nibiru would be here in 2012.
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They said they would begin to introduce themselves to humanity before 2012, this was in 2008, in 2009 "Ancient Aliens" hit the airwaves.

I believe they were true to their words.

And Nibiru did just come through but that's another story, Mankind was spared and Nibiru took a new trajectory through our inner solar system.

That will be revealed to humanity in the near future.

You don't have to believe me on that one. Yet I was part of a team put together by the highest secret factions of the NSA late last year to try and communicate with the incoming and that experiment was successful.
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MSNBC contacted the FAA and all local Cleveland Airports including Cleveland's Hopkins airport who said

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Still pitching the same two year old mainstream media fluff piece I see.

You didn't answer my question. Is Eugene still seeing the lights from his apartment every night?

The bottom line is the only UFO investigator who came and did any real research said these lights are planes.

If that's BS it would be very easy to document. Except it's been two years and neither you nor anyone else is doing any real research.

Case closed.
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Yet I was part of a team put together by the highest secret factions of the NSA late last year to try and communicate with the incoming and that experiment was successful.
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You're either delusional, lying or you're once again being played by someone.





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