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The Real Mayan Calendar End Date (May 20th, 2016)

 
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If the calendar is supposedly off by 3.5 years, how can astronomical phenomena so completely agree with the calendar, including the transit of Venus, which the Maya took very seriously?
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Good question:

Dec. 21st, 2012 is correct using the Gregorian calendar.

Like I said before:

Gregorian Calendar Mayan End Date = Dec. 21st, 2012

Julian Calendar Mayan End Date = Dec. 8th, 2012

Haab Calendar Mayan End Date = June 3rd, 2016
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:great scott:

Looks like this person has the same line of thinking:

"Okay, deep breath.... Mayan calendar.

The Mayan calendar as we understand it correlates to a base date of either 2nd or 13th of August, 3114bce depending on your source. I'm using the latter as it appears to be more commonly accepted from what I can tell. A Mayan world age lasts 13 Baktuns, a period of 1,872,000 days. Therefore 22nd December, 2012 must necessarily be the 1,872,001st day after the Mayan base date. Unfortunately though, it doesn't quite work out.

The sum of 1,872,000 days after the base date calculated without compensating for either Mayan intercalary days or Gregorian leap years represents a period of 5,128 years and 280 days bringing us to the 19th May, 2015.

The sum of 1,872,000 days excluding Mayan intercalary days (thus preserving the mathematical integrity of the same) but including related systems within both Julian and Gregorian calendars represents a period of 5,312 years and 102 days bringing us to 19th August, 2019.

The sum of 1,872,000 days including Mayan intercalary days as thogh they were a part of the calendar (which they patently were not) and related systems within both Julian and Gregorian calendars represents a period of 5,125 years and 94 days bringing us to 15th November 2011.

I have no idea where 2012 came from. I guess some clever [cough cough... person] just pulled it out of their [cough cough... imagination] one day."

[link to firstnations.com]

My calculations actually point to May 19th, 2016 instead, not 2015.

And the idea of where 2012 came from was researchers took the Gregorian calendar and overlapped it with the Mayan Long Count of 144,000 days which shouldn't have been done to accurately figure out the "end date"!
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I am not the only one that can see there is a major error. Dec. 21st, 2012 was the deception.
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From before it is news source:

“Newton’s Riddle” will help fool some people into accepting the Antichrist as the True Messiah
Wednesday, May 6, 2015 by David Montaigne


"Newton’s understanding of one key passage in Daniel chapter 9 is fundamentally different from that of most common interpretations. In about 550 B.C., God gave the prophet Daniel a view of history to the end. From Daniel 9:25, scholars usually add the “seven weeks (of years, or 49 years) and 62 weeks (434 years)” to get 483 years and calculate the time of Messiah’s First Coming. However, Newton says there is no linguistic basis for adding those two numbers (49 and 434), and to do so is “doing violence to the language of Daniel.” Newton says the two numbers separately speak of both the First and Second Coming, both being counted from the “going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem.”

Newton says the “62 weeks,” or 434-year part was fulfilled at the First Coming, and the “seven weeks,” or 49-year part will apply to the Second Coming. And three centuries ago he saw in the Scriptures and wrote about the rebirth of Israel at a time when such a thought was preposterous.

Amazingly, by faith and understanding of the Scriptures, he foresaw a “friendly kingdom” someday again issuing the “commandment to restore and build Jerusalem.” Now, centuries later, that “friendly kingdom” was the United Nations, which decreed Israel’s rebirth in November, 1947, causing Israel to be reborn in May, 1948.

The above is taken from my [Neill Russell's] essay on Newton written in the mid-1990s shortly after obtaining a copy of Newton’s commentary on Daniel from the doctor who discovered Thomas Jefferson’s personal and initialed copy of it in the Library of Congress, and who then got permission to reprint it in the original, difficult-to-read olde English script.

However, my [Russell's] speculations back then wrongly assumed the final 49-year count began when Israel was born in 1948. At the time, it did not occur to me that the count should probably begin on June 7, 1967, when Israel captured Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.”

quote from [link to twelvebooks.wordpress.com (secure)]

So having been wrong about the Messiah’s Second Coming being due in 1997, Russell now suggests that the Second Coming will be around June 7, 2016.

My own conclusions are that the Antichrist will claim to be the Messiah on June 6, 2016 – and I give a great deal of evidence for that date in my recent book, Antichrist 2016-2019: Mystery Babylon, Barack Obama & the Islamic Caliphate. In my book, I also pointed out that some people are promoting the idea that the true Messiah will come on that day. Many will be fooled. As Matthew 24:24 warns: “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.”


If one takes Bible prophecy seriously, the Antichrist has to take power 42 months before Jesus Christ comes to destroy him. We simply don’t have 42 months left before June 2016. As 2 Thessalonians 2:3 says: “Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.” Read Alan Kurschner’s “Antichrist: Before the Day of the Lord” for further clarification. The Second Coming cannot come anytime, like tomorrow – or in 2016. The reign of the Antichrist comes first.

In summary, I argue that 49 years from June 6, 1967 is an important date – but unlike Neill Russell, I argue that it will mark the revealing of the identity of the Antichrist, not the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. I think that Bible prophecy, and Sir Isaac Newton – are being misinterpreted by those who assume that the Second Coming will be around June 6-7, 2016 – and that any beliefs in such a theory will help mislead many into following the Antichrist. I believe that December 1970 is a more important starting point for Daniel 9:25′s 49 years (7 weeks of years): “So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks.” I believe the Second Coming will be in late 2019."
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Things are moving too fast now for there not to be some kind of significant event in human history. It will all add up when we see it.
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There's a theory that the Milky Way galaxy is not ours, but that we are of the smaller Sagittarius galaxy being subsumed. We are rotating at a tilt off the ecliptic of the Milky Way.

We're on a ferris wheel to the big show.
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I thought that was a fact - not a theory! scratching
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From before it is news source:

“Newton’s Riddle” will help fool some people into accepting the Antichrist as the True Messiah
Wednesday, May 6, 2015 by David Montaigne


"Newton’s understanding of one key passage in Daniel chapter 9 is fundamentally different from that of most common interpretations. In about 550 B.C., God gave the prophet Daniel a view of history to the end. From Daniel 9:25, scholars usually add the “seven weeks (of years, or 49 years) and 62 weeks (434 years)” to get 483 years and calculate the time of Messiah’s First Coming. However, Newton says there is no linguistic basis for adding those two numbers (49 and 434), and to do so is “doing violence to the language of Daniel.” Newton says the two numbers separately speak of both the First and Second Coming, both being counted from the “going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem.”

Newton says the “62 weeks,” or 434-year part was fulfilled at the First Coming, and the “seven weeks,” or 49-year part will apply to the Second Coming. And three centuries ago he saw in the Scriptures and wrote about the rebirth of Israel at a time when such a thought was preposterous.

Amazingly, by faith and understanding of the Scriptures, he foresaw a “friendly kingdom” someday again issuing the “commandment to restore and build Jerusalem.” Now, centuries later, that “friendly kingdom” was the United Nations, which decreed Israel’s rebirth in November, 1947, causing Israel to be reborn in May, 1948.

The above is taken from my [Neill Russell's] essay on Newton written in the mid-1990s shortly after obtaining a copy of Newton’s commentary on Daniel from the doctor who discovered Thomas Jefferson’s personal and initialed copy of it in the Library of Congress, and who then got permission to reprint it in the original, difficult-to-read olde English script.

However, my [Russell's] speculations back then wrongly assumed the final 49-year count began when Israel was born in 1948. At the time, it did not occur to me that the count should probably begin on June 7, 1967, when Israel captured Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.”

quote from [link to twelvebooks.wordpress.com (secure)]

So having been wrong about the Messiah’s Second Coming being due in 1997, Russell now suggests that the Second Coming will be around June 7, 2016.

My own conclusions are that the Antichrist will claim to be the Messiah on June 6, 2016 – and I give a great deal of evidence for that date in my recent book, Antichrist 2016-2019: Mystery Babylon, Barack Obama & the Islamic Caliphate. In my book, I also pointed out that some people are promoting the idea that the true Messiah will come on that day. Many will be fooled. As Matthew 24:24 warns: “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.”


If one takes Bible prophecy seriously, the Antichrist has to take power 42 months before Jesus Christ comes to destroy him. We simply don’t have 42 months left before June 2016. As 2 Thessalonians 2:3 says: “Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.” Read Alan Kurschner’s “Antichrist: Before the Day of the Lord” for further clarification. The Second Coming cannot come anytime, like tomorrow – or in 2016. The reign of the Antichrist comes first.

In summary, I argue that 49 years from June 6, 1967 is an important date – but unlike Neill Russell, I argue that it will mark the revealing of the identity of the Antichrist, not the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. I think that Bible prophecy, and Sir Isaac Newton – are being misinterpreted by those who assume that the Second Coming will be around June 6-7, 2016 – and that any beliefs in such a theory will help mislead many into following the Antichrist. I believe that December 1970 is a more important starting point for Daniel 9:25′s 49 years (7 weeks of years): “So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks.” I believe the Second Coming will be in late 2019."
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Someone else said this on another forum web site:

"So I was reading bible prophecies and started to look into the great tribulation(the 7 year time period described in the bible as god punishing the Jews and the rest of the world). So the bible describes the beast making a "covenant" and breaking it halfway through "1,260 days" (Revelation:11:3) So I got curious and wondered if the Mayan calendar was truly right but predicted just the beginning of the end, I added the 1,260 days to December 21, 2012 and got June 3, 2016. So went to this solar prediction website found that on June 3, 2016 the first 5 planets will be aligned in line. What do you think, kinda different from the usual stuff here. Am I crazy? [link to imgur.com] Also one thing to note is that three days later the date is 6/6/16. "



It is not coincidental that the Mayan Haab Long Count ends at this time too.
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My own conclusions are that the Antichrist will claim to be the Messiah on June 6, 2016 – and I give a great deal of evidence for that date in my recent book, Antichrist 2016-2019: Mystery Babylon, Barack Obama & the Islamic Caliphate. In my book, I also pointed out that some people are promoting the idea that the true Messiah will come on that day. Many will be fooled. As Matthew 24:24 warns: “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.”

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^^^Here, look here. This will only be clear to a tiny contingent of souls, the rest will fall headlong into the trap.
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Real Mayan end date is Jan 6 2016, my uncle told me so. Who gives a fuck.
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Real Mayan end date is Jan 6 2016, my uncle told me so. Who gives a fuck.
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i do hf
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and have a fuckin big bump for your thread OP bumpbump
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Things are moving too fast now for there not to be some kind of significant event in human history. It will all add up when we see it.
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i agree with u but what is the event .is it good, is it bad /?
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This calender gets a new end date every few months. I love it.

And who ever said that a change or something dramatic would happen? Isn't it just the beginning of a new cycle?
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This calender gets a new end date every few months. I love it.

And who ever said that a change or something dramatic would happen? Isn't it just the beginning of a new cycle?
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what ..like a wash rinse repeat type thing ? i hope not im more for the golden age myself but time, as they say will tell..
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Thanks for the pin.

It doesn't take a genius to see the calendar is off by 3 1/2 years. Why? Because some dumbass or dumbasses decided to use the Gregorian calendar and overlap it with the Mayan Haab calendar to arrive at Dec. 21st, 2012. It doesn't work that way. You have to use the true Mayan Haab Long Count cycle to figure it out.

I am not the only one out there that has seen this MAJOR discrepancy.

And for the calendar to arrive at the same exact freaking date of Isaac Newton's "end of time" or Messiah return date?

Coincidence? I think not!
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Interesting work. You seem so sure.

One question. I though Newton's date of the return of Christ was something like 2060? See:
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The Mayan Calendar is off by 3 1/2 years and I can clearly show you how and why. My theory is very solid. It appears the true Mayan Long Count End Date comes to a cycle conclusion on June 3rd, 2016.

Lets see if anyone cares, wants to challenge my theory or comment on what I figured out.

If my theory is valid, then we only might have 6 months left until all hell breaks lose and a new beginning happens.


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 Quoting: Revelator Stargate
The date of Birth of Jesus according to History and the Bible is what we call 6AD.Take off 500 days of leap years and we have roughly 4.5 years out.So your date of June 2016 is very close to the right date.

Jesus was born in what we call 6AD and that is easily proved.So I agree with you.Your maths and my maths brings us to the roughly same place.
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Amazing..and we were warned they would change the times

He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Or 1260 days
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Interesting isn't it that it says there, it will try to set the set times?

The great deception of Dec. 21st, 2012.

It appears it is June 3rd, 2016, which could have serious ramifications for the near future.
 Quoting: Revelator Stargate


From the crucifixion of Christ on 03 Apr 33AD to the birthday of Israel 14 May 2016 is TO THE DAY on a 360 day prophetic calendar 2012 years. [link to www.timeanddate.com]
724,320 days / 360 = 2012 years

From the Roswell crash on 07 Jul 1947 to 04 Jul 2016 is 25,200 days which is 70 prophetic years on the 360 day prophetic calendar. It is also the 2520 God type math from Daniel.
[link to www.timeanddate.com]

A sirius star cycle is the same as the false heliocentric model of 365.25 days. The end meets the beginning every 1461 years 365.25/.25 = 1461. 2016 - 1461 = 555. This is the height of the Washington Monument in feet.

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Ok im totally convinced noe op.

Which begs the biggest question of all...

What can we expect to happen?
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So you see my theory and calculations are now correct, that the true Mayan Long Count "End Date" is May 20th, 2016 (Julian) or June 3rd, 2016 (Gregorian)?
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Yes i do.

So what can we expect to happen?
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Things obviously point to a solar event! Look at Ezekiel's Wheel.

:knowingd:
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It could be just another prophecy fail date...but the Tarot also points to this Ezekiel's Wheel moment in June 2016 where X marks the spot when, in the "unpronounceable name of God," Thrice Great Hermes aka Thoth/ The Nobody/ Bolon Yokte returns to showcase the final spin of the world's Wheel of Fortune!


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"The Wheel of Fortune is highly symbolic. The angel in the top left corner is Aquarius, the eagle is Scorpio, the lion is Leo and the bull is Taurus.

These are the four fixed signs of the Zodiac but all have wings signifying stability amidst movement and change. The book they each have in their hands is the Torah, representing wisdom.

On the wheel itself are the Hebrew letters IHVH (Yod Heh Vau Heh), the unpronounceable name of God. Interspersed with these letters are TORA (read anti-clockwise) or TARO (read clockwise) which also translates to TAROT when you return to the spot where you started.

The snake descending on the left side of the Wheel is the Egyptian god Typhon, the god of evil. The snake also represents the life force descending into the material world.

The Anubis rising on the right side of the Wheel is Hermes, a symbol of intelligence, wisdom ascending or our shadow selves. The Sphinx on the top of the wheel represents life’s riddles.

The middle wheel contains the alchemical symbols for mercury, sulphur, water and salt – the building blocks of life and the four elements – and represents formative power.

The outer circle represents the material world. The eight spokes in the wheel represent the Universal radiant energy, as well as the eight Sabbats of the year. The blue background represents wisdom.

The planet of this card is Jupiter, the planet of opportunity, growth, success, and expansion. The number 10 is a higher octave of the number 1, empowering the qualities of the 1." (50%)

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OP, I see you are still trying to sound like an authority on a subject you know nothing about. For anyone who wants to see how I debunked the OP see the link below. I even give you all the tools you need to confirm what I say as true or debunk me. I expect some red karma, deletion and possibly banishment from this thread, but I defend the truth, and the culture of my people.

Thread: Mayan Calendar, April 12 1988
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Haha, KeepItUnreal, welcome to my thread.

I will give you credit, you did say the Long Count 13 baktun cycle is 5128 years 280 days. Correct?

I am agreement with you there, but still have no clue how you come up with that 1988 date. LOL I think you are the only one that can understand it.
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What's so hard to understand? A ha'ab date can only occur once every 52 solar years. The end date 4 ahau 3 kankin can only happen in a solar year named 2 Etznab. We know that 2 Etznab is the year that follows 1 Ben in the cycle. We also know that 1 Ben is the same year as the Aztec 1 Acatl, and that it was prophesied that Quetzalcoatl would return. We know from records, annals and diaries written by Spaniards and by natives that in 1519 Cortes arrived to the continent in a year called 1 Acatl or 1 Ben ( Central Mexico and Yucatan respectively). Therefore the year 2 Etznab, the only solar year that a day called 4 ahau 3 kankin can occur would have happened in 1520. Since a day with that name can only occur in a year of that name, the "end date" can only happen in a year that is at 52 year intervals from 1520. The last time that happened was 1988. A day with the same name as the end date can't happen again until 2040 ad.

I didn't come up with 1988, it is when the celebration of the new baktun was celebrated by real Mayas that have been erecting stones every year and every katun in secret since before the Spaniards arrived. It is fact, it happened. I guess you are the only one that doesn't get it.

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Re: The Real Mayan Calendar End Date (May 20th, 2016)
So we have a major grand cross planetary alignment around June 3rd-June 6th, 2016, which coincides with the correct Mayan calendar end date I have deciphered, the date Isaac Newton says it is the possible return of Christ, and June 4th, 2016 being Ascension Day.

It makes you wonder what is to come in about 5-6 months from now.
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Ascension Day 2016 is on Thursday, May 5, 2016

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Not for me to say its a fact ... but sure is convincing

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There's a theory that the Milky Way galaxy is not ours, but that we are of the smaller Sagittarius galaxy being subsumed. We are rotating at a tilt off the ecliptic of the Milky Way.

We're on a ferris wheel to the big show.
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I thought that was a fact - not a theory! scratching
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[link to viewzone.com]

It has been postulated that this is the real reason for both global warming since higher energy levels of the Milky Way are almost certain to cause our Sun to burn hotter and emit higher energies. Indeed, temperatures have been seen to rise on virtually all the planets in our system. This seems quite apart from any local phenomenon like greenhouse gases etc.

This grand turning is possibly the root cause for the discontinuation of the Mayan calendar (the most accurate on the planet) because the 'read-point' of the Pleiades star cluster, which many believe the calendar was based upon, can no longer be a constant as we begin to steer away from the earlier predictable movements.

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What's so hard to understand? A ha'ab date can only occur once every 52 solar years. The end date 4 ahau 3 kankin can only happen in a solar year named 2 Etznab. We know that 2 Etznab is the year that follows 1 Ben in the cycle. We also know that 1 Ben is the same year as the Aztec 1 Acatl, and that it was prophesied that Quetzalcoatl would return. We know from records, annals and diaries written by Spaniards and by natives that in 1519 Cortes arrived to the continent in a year called 1 Acatl or 1 Ben ( Central Mexico and Yucatan respectively). Therefore the year 2 Etznab, the only solar year that a day called 4 ahau 3 kankin can occur would have happened in 1520. Since a day with that name can only occur in a year of that name, the "end date" can only happen in a year that is at 52 year intervals from 1520. The last time that happened was 1988. A day with the same name as the end date can't happen again until 2040 ad.

I didn't come up with 1988, it is when the celebration of the new baktun was celebrated by real Mayas that have been erecting stones every year and every katun in secret since before the Spaniards arrived. It is fact, it happened. I guess you are the only one that doesn't get it.
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[link to viewzone.com]

It has been postulated that this is the real reason for both global warming since higher energy levels of the Milky Way are almost certain to cause our Sun to burn hotter and emit higher energies. Indeed, temperatures have been seen to rise on virtually all the planets in our system. This seems quite apart from any local phenomenon like greenhouse gases etc.

This grand turning is possibly the root cause for the discontinuation of the Mayan calendar (the most accurate on the planet) because the 'read-point' of the Pleiades star cluster, which many believe the calendar was based upon, can no longer be a constant as we begin to steer away from the earlier predictable movements.

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What's so hard to understand? A ha'ab date can only occur once every 52 solar years. The end date 4 ahau 3 kankin can only happen in a solar year named 2 Etznab. We know that 2 Etznab is the year that follows 1 Ben in the cycle. We also know that 1 Ben is the same year as the Aztec 1 Acatl, and that it was prophesied that Quetzalcoatl would return. We know from records, annals and diaries written by Spaniards and by natives that in 1519 Cortes arrived to the continent in a year called 1 Acatl or 1 Ben ( Central Mexico and Yucatan respectively). Therefore the year 2 Etznab, the only solar year that a day called 4 ahau 3 kankin can occur would have happened in 1520. Since a day with that name can only occur in a year of that name, the "end date" can only happen in a year that is at 52 year intervals from 1520. The last time that happened was 1988. A day with the same name as the end date can't happen again until 2040 ad.

I didn't come up with 1988, it is when the celebration of the new baktun was celebrated by real Mayas that have been erecting stones every year and every katun in secret since before the Spaniards arrived. It is fact, it happened. I guess you are the only one that doesn't get it.
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The reason for the "discontinuation" of the Mayan calendar was the Conquest and persecution by the not so holy inquisition. And even then, the count has been marked in secret all this time by a few timekeepers in Belize, Yucatan, Chiapas and Tlaxcala. There is no end date because it is just a tool for counting the passing of days, years and cycles. When one ends, a new one starts. Just like nothing earth shattering happened when the new millennium was celebrated in 1999-2000. So much has been written by people that don't even know the language at all, they don't know the culture and they make shit up and try to fit the calendar with their own preconceived "knowledge" from reading some books and watching videos by charlatans. And they really made a lot of money from the gullible.

I have given the method to prove that what I say is true. Check the history. The year 1519 is the year Cortes arrived. It was a year called 1 Acatl in Central Mexico and 1 Ben in Yucatan. The following year, according to the cycle was 2 Tecpatl in Central Mexico and 2 Etznab in Yucatan. This is the only year in the 52 year cycle where a day named 4 ahau 3 kankin can occur. So the only years that the end of the baktuns can happen in must be at 52 year intervals from 1520. Any other year is impossible. Don't overthink it. The calendar is really quite simple. The end date gives us not only the name of the day and year, it gives us the precise place in the solar cycle, which is April 12. If the solar calendar Ha'ab is properly set to the right start point, it still predicts all of the important local celestial events and can be used to predict the start of the rains, the equinoxes, the dates when the sun crosses the local zenith on its way north and south. The calendar Revelator suggests ( June 3) is almost 2 months off of the proper solar cycle. The position 3 Kankin is April, Kankin means old sun, it is one of the hottest times of the year, when the sun is approaching the local zenith towards on it's northward journey.
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So we have a major grand cross planetary alignment around June 3rd-June 6th, 2016, which coincides with the correct Mayan calendar end date I have deciphered, the date Isaac Newton says it is the possible return of Christ, and June 4th, 2016 being Ascension Day.

It makes you wonder what is to come in about 5-6 months from now.
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Ascension Day 2016 is on Thursday, May 5, 2016

[link to www.calendarpedia.com]


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You can't be going by the faulty wrong Gregorian calendar to figure it out. Iyar 27 in the Jewish calendar is June 4th, 2016. 40 days after the resurrection.
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[link to viewzone.com]

It has been postulated that this is the real reason for both global warming since higher energy levels of the Milky Way are almost certain to cause our Sun to burn hotter and emit higher energies. Indeed, temperatures have been seen to rise on virtually all the planets in our system. This seems quite apart from any local phenomenon like greenhouse gases etc.

This grand turning is possibly the root cause for the discontinuation of the Mayan calendar (the most accurate on the planet) because the 'read-point' of the Pleiades star cluster, which many believe the calendar was based upon, can no longer be a constant as we begin to steer away from the earlier predictable movements.

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What's so hard to understand? A ha'ab date can only occur once every 52 solar years. The end date 4 ahau 3 kankin can only happen in a solar year named 2 Etznab. We know that 2 Etznab is the year that follows 1 Ben in the cycle. We also know that 1 Ben is the same year as the Aztec 1 Acatl, and that it was prophesied that Quetzalcoatl would return. We know from records, annals and diaries written by Spaniards and by natives that in 1519 Cortes arrived to the continent in a year called 1 Acatl or 1 Ben ( Central Mexico and Yucatan respectively). Therefore the year 2 Etznab, the only solar year that a day called 4 ahau 3 kankin can occur would have happened in 1520. Since a day with that name can only occur in a year of that name, the "end date" can only happen in a year that is at 52 year intervals from 1520. The last time that happened was 1988. A day with the same name as the end date can't happen again until 2040 ad.

I didn't come up with 1988, it is when the celebration of the new baktun was celebrated by real Mayas that have been erecting stones every year and every katun in secret since before the Spaniards arrived. It is fact, it happened. I guess you are the only one that doesn't get it.
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The reason for the "discontinuation" of the Mayan calendar was the Conquest and persecution by the not so holy inquisition. And even then, the count has been marked in secret all this time by a few timekeepers in Belize, Yucatan, Chiapas and Tlaxcala. There is no end date because it is just a tool for counting the passing of days, years and cycles. When one ends, a new one starts. Just like nothing earth shattering happened when the new millennium was celebrated in 1999-2000. So much has been written by people that don't even know the language at all, they don't know the culture and they make shit up and try to fit the calendar with their own preconceived "knowledge" from reading some books and watching videos by charlatans. And they really made a lot of money from the gullible.

I have given the method to prove that what I say is true. Check the history. The year 1519 is the year Cortes arrived. It was a year called 1 Acatl in Central Mexico and 1 Ben in Yucatan. The following year, according to the cycle was 2 Tecpatl in Central Mexico and 2 Etznab in Yucatan. This is the only year in the 52 year cycle where a day named 4 ahau 3 kankin can occur. So the only years that the end of the baktuns can happen in must be at 52 year intervals from 1520. Any other year is impossible. Don't overthink it. The calendar is really quite simple. The end date gives us not only the name of the day and year, it gives us the precise place in the solar cycle, which is April 12. If the solar calendar Ha'ab is properly set to the right start point, it still predicts all of the important local celestial events and can be used to predict the start of the rains, the equinoxes, the dates when the sun crosses the local zenith on its way north and south. The calendar Revelator suggests ( June 3) is almost 2 months off of the proper solar cycle. The position 3 Kankin is April, Kankin means old sun, it is one of the hottest times of the year, when the sun is approaching the local zenith towards on it's northward journey.
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Did you not say before that the Mayan 13 baktun Long Count is 5128 years 280 days? Yes or no?

Did you also not say May 20th is significant as well to the solar zenith? Yes or no?
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Yes, I did say that. 5128 Ha'ab (solar) years plus 280 days is equal to 5200 Tun (vague years of 360 days each). May 20th is significant because at the local lattitide (Yucatan) the sun crosses the local zenith on its way north. It leaves the region of the gods, the south and enters the domain of Xibalaba and stays there until July 24th (second crossing of the zenith) which is also the first day ( 0 Pop) of a new solar year.
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Hi Revelator Stargate

Very interesting thread. Read your link in the second post, and was fascinated by some of the information, in regards to The Maori and Matariki celebrations on June 6 for 2016, i was thinking the same thing (being Maori) and wondering if it would indeed line up with somebody's calculations, and it looks like it does, did a little research and found more interesting info on the date.



In regards to the Maori Matariki, there is speculation this is ancient calendar related to the Hebrews, as there are many other connections to Hebrew customs that the Maori still follow, which for me is exciting since it is my passion to follow my roots.

For example

[link to culdiantrust.org]

The Saga of Ancient Hebrew Explorers

Interestingly, ancient Maori traditions relate that since antiquity the Maoris have observed ceremonial and dietary laws very similar to those of the ancient Hebrews. They even kept the seventh day "Sabbath" as a day of rest! Also, every 7 times 7 years -- or 49 years -- they observed a Jubilee Year similar to that of the ancient Hebrews." These similarities simply cannot be explained away as "mere coincidence"! The Maoris, like the Hebrews, even had a "sacred month" given over to Harvest thanksgiving, corresponding to the Hebrew month of Tishri and the Festival of Tabernacles.

[link to hope-of-israel.org]

Very interesting the fact that these traditions were even observed here in the first place, as there is a lot of protocol regarding priestly knowledge for such observances to be observed properly, giving a clue to the people that my ancestors possibly were. The knowledge of such observances also has connections and relevance to aspects of the kabbalah system :)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


So what do we have here on june 6 2016, a jubilee year?

To many coincidence the more i look....

Then we got this prediction here for June in NZ



Keeping an eye on this, Thanks Revelator Stargate for bringing this forward :)
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Yes, I did say that. 5128 Ha'ab (solar) years plus 280 days is equal to 5200 Tun (vague years of 360 days each). May 20th is significant because at the local lattitide (Yucatan) the sun crosses the local zenith on its way north. It leaves the region of the gods, the south and enters the domain of Xibalaba and stays there until July 24th (second crossing of the zenith) which is also the first day ( 0 Pop) of a new solar year.
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Ok, I agree. I got 5128 years plus 280 days too. Take 1,872,000 days or the number of days in the 13 baktuns divide it by 365 (Haab solar year) = 5128.767 years or 5128 years 280 days.

May 20th is very significant because the Sun reaches its zenith at that time and is aligned with Pleiades.
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Yes, I did say that. 5128 Ha'ab (solar) years plus 280 days is equal to 5200 Tun (vague years of 360 days each). May 20th is significant because at the local lattitide (Yucatan) the sun crosses the local zenith on its way north. It leaves the region of the gods, the south and enters the domain of Xibalaba and stays there until July 24th (second crossing of the zenith) which is also the first day ( 0 Pop) of a new solar year.
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Ok, I agree. I got 5128 years plus 280 days too. Take 1,872,000 days or the number of days in the 13 baktuns divide it by 365 (Haab solar year) = 5128.767 years or 5128 years 280 days.

May 20th is very significant because the Sun reaches its zenith at that time and is aligned with Pleiades.
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5128 years 280 days or 1,872,000 days from the beginning Long Count date of August 13th, 3114 BC I believe comes out to May 19th/20th, 2016 (Julian date) or June 2nd/3rd, 2016 (Gregorian date).
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Hi Revelator,

Thank you for continuing to kick sweet ass on these esoteric issues. The concrete reality has become so mundane,...but when wrapped within mysteries understandable.

Happy Solstice friend!!





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Hi Revelator,

Thank you for continuing to kick sweet ass on these esoteric issues. The concrete reality has become so mundane,...but when wrapped within mysteries understandable.

Happy Solstice friend!!





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Hi Z,

Thank you! Happy Solstice my friend too.

So I figured out using this calculator that there are actually 1,872,000 days between 9/6/3114 BC (Julian calendar) to Dec. 21st, 2012 (Gregorian) calendar.

[link to www.msevans.com]

This means, it is correct that Dec. 21st, 2012 was the end of the Long Count cycle using the Gregorian 365.2425 solar year, but if we use the solar year of the Mayan Haab of 365 days I believe the end of the Long Count calendar is May 20th, 2016 (Julian).





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