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HUM.. a Question.... Do You mid trib or pre wrath or post trib believers have ANY examples in the Bible?????
None that I know of..
As for PREtrib lets see Noah, Lot Enoch
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Elijah was also raptured.

Yahshua(Jesus) was also raptured. I wonder why no one really acknowledges this? If it was possible for Him, I think he can make it possible for His bride the Congregation(Church) too. With Christ all things are possible.

The concept of a rapture is a well-established event in the bible. People like to deny this, and in so doing, are denying scripture.
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None capture rapture as eloquently in a song as these guys:

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:9teen: Please stop posting the list of previous Rapture threads that have been on GLP. I've already deleted it about 8 times and I'm getting fed up with it. Go start your own thread if you don't like it, but stop spamming this one.
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I think the poster in question was spamming a lot of failed rapture dates that people made threads for on GLP. He was attempting to create a straw man argument by associating date-setters with the premillinneal Pre-Tribulation rapture theory, and then attempting to discredit the Pre-Trib position by referencing all the date-setters' failed dates.

But what he failed to mention is that date-setting for a Pre-Trib rapture is not biblical. The bible says clearly that we will not know the day or the hour of our Lord's return. So date-setters disqualify themselves as being biblical Pre-Trib proponents. But perhaps since he doesn't see the biblical basis for the Pre-Trib position, why would he bother to distinguish the erroneous date-setters from the biblical Pre-Tribbers? Instead, he just lumps them all in together, thus creating more error for himself.
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The festering hatred of a dark soul snarling at Our Hope in Christ.
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Thanks for continuing to post, DS.

Just stay anonymous. Who cares? What credit do we need? He knows.
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kitty Do not listen to the liars who go on about a mid tribulation, or late tribulation rapture. The fact is that they don't know when it will be. Why take the risk?

THE RAPTURE COULD BE TODAY - Get right with the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.


:bridea: Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer to as to when it will happen and that is... today. Please Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are asleep in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope
.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words
.

kitty Here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract on this very important subject.WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]
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You are a dumb whore , use your brain idiot.
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kitty Do not listen to the liars who go on about a mid tribulation, or late tribulation rapture. The fact is that they don't know when it will be. Why take the risk?

THE RAPTURE COULD BE TODAY - Get right with the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.


:bridea: Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer to as to when it will happen and that is... today. Please Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are asleep in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope
.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words
.

kitty Here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract on this very important subject.WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]
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You are a dumb whore , use your brain idiot.
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the way you speak is disgusting
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The Rapture really bothers some people.

It even angers many.

hmm
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kitty Do not listen to the liars who go on about a mid tribulation, or late tribulation rapture. The fact is that they don't know when it will be. Why take the risk?

THE RAPTURE COULD BE TODAY - Get right with the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.


:bridea: Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer to as to when it will happen and that is... today. Please Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are asleep in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope
.

Ted Cruz, is that you man!?
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words
.

kitty Here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract on this very important subject.WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]
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kitty Do not listen to the liars who go on about a mid tribulation, or late tribulation rapture. The fact is that they don't know when it will be. Why take the risk?

THE RAPTURE COULD BE TODAY - Get right with the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.


:bridea: Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer to as to when it will happen and that is... today. Please Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are asleep in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope
.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words
.

kitty Here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract on this very important subject.WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]
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You are a dumb whore , use your brain idiot.
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the way you speak is disgusting
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Ted Cruz, is that you man?!?
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kitty Do not listen to the liars who go on about a mid tribulation, or late tribulation rapture. The fact is that they don't know when it will be. Why take the risk?

THE RAPTURE COULD BE TODAY - Get right with the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.


:bridea: Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer to as to when it will happen and that is... today. Please Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are asleep in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope
.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words
.

kitty Here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract on this very important subject.WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]
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You are a dumb whore , use your brain idiot.
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the way you speak is disgusting
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Ted Cruz, is that you man?!?
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typical glper behavior extremely childish
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there is no rapture. Only evacuation. rapture was made up story by a fellow named well I forget his name from about 1850 that started the rapture stuff. It is not truth.
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LIAR
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Baloney.
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Oscar Mayer...and you're either a liar or an idiot.
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Ted Cruz, is that you man?!?
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He is hated because he is a good man.

He is hated because he is openly Christian.
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there is no rapture. Only evacuation. rapture was made up story by a fellow named well I forget his name from about 1850 that started the rapture stuff. It is not truth.
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LIAR
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Baloney.
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Oscar Mayer...and you're either a liar or an idiot.
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lol really guys.. really
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kitty Do not listen to the liars who go on about a mid tribulation, or late tribulation rapture. The fact is that they don't know when it will be. Why take the risk?

THE RAPTURE COULD BE TODAY - Get right with the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.


:bridea: Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer to as to when it will happen and that is... today. Please Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are asleep in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope
.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words
.

kitty Here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract on this very important subject.WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]
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i am with you this...just remember that any klown who mocks your faith and hope is only doing it because they don't have any hope or faith in anything...hence they are going nowhere...they are jealous because you are right ... keep up the great work..
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It seems you are the victim of the self defending portion of your theological indoctrination.
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Would you contradict the Savior? ["I pray that they not be taken from this world"]

In psalm 91 you read "thousands will die at your side" and you don't wonder how this could be if you have departed in some fantasy rapture!

Do you realize Jesus said four times in chapter four of John that HE will raise us on the last day [not the last minus 3 1/2 or 7 years]

One scripture spoken TO an elite jew was "you must be born again." Then there are also many scriptures FROM an elite jew named Paul...like..
"The only jew is one inwardly" {let me help you..he's saying there is no such thing as a carnal jew. He's saying you must be born again. He's saying the born again disciples of Jesus is God's holy Israel.

The tree we're grafted to is made up of born again jews (who were jews no longer..[There is neither jew nor gentile in Christ Jesus"] Remember in Ezekiel when abominations were committed in the temple and the glory departed IT DEPARTED JUDITH! Modern day Judaism is the remnant of Babylon

Carnal jews being God's chosen is a ship that has sailed. Christ said He came for the lost sheep. I submit to you that when Jesus was alive HE was the entirety of Israel. The rest fell in their captivity and remembered not the word of the Lord. (Reread Ezra)

There are so many scripture to support all of this but it has been prophesied "they will not hear you". The "marred vessel" prophesy was fulfilled by the Savior in His time. HE remade the vessel which was identified in Jeremiah as Israel into a nation of reborn disciples. Judith, that's why Israel is eternal.
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Would you contradict the Savior? ["I pray that they not be taken from this world"]

In psalm 91 you read "thousands will die at your side" and you don't wonder how this could be if you have departed in some fantasy rapture!

Do you realize Jesus said four times in chapter four of John that HE will raise us on the last day [not the last minus 3 1/2 or 7 years]

One scripture spoken TO an elite jew was "you must be born again." Then there are also many scriptures FROM an elite jew named Paul...like..
"The only jew is one inwardly" {let me help you..he's saying there is no such thing as a carnal jew. He's saying you must be born again. He's saying the born again disciples of Jesus is God's holy Israel.

The tree we're grafted to is made up of born again jews (who were jews no longer..[There is neither jew nor gentile in Christ Jesus"] Remember in Ezekiel when abominations were committed in the temple and the glory departed IT DEPARTED JUDITH! Modern day Judaism is the remnant of Babylon

Carnal jews being God's chosen is a ship that has sailed. Christ said He came for the lost sheep. I submit to you that when Jesus was alive HE was the entirety of Israel. The rest fell in their captivity and remembered not the word of the Lord. (Reread Ezra)

There are so many scripture to support all of this but it has been prophesied "they will not hear you". The "marred vessel" prophesy was fulfilled by the Savior in His time. HE remade the vessel which was identified in Jeremiah as Israel into a nation of reborn disciples. Judith, that's why Israel is eternal.
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No you are a big dummy!
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"We continue to receive many questions concerning the "Rapture of the Church" and its apparent contrast with the "Second Coming" of Jesus Christ. Where does this view come from? Is the term "rapture" even in the Bible?

The mysterious event known as the Rapture is most clearly represented in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, which encourages the grieving Christians that, at the "great snatch," they will be reunited with those who have died in Christ before them.

In verse 17, the English phrase "caught up" translates the Greek word harpazo, which means "to seize upon with force" or "to snatch up." The Latin translators of the Bible used the word "rapturo," the root of the English term "Rapture." At the Rapture, living believers will be "caught up" in the air, translated into the clouds, in a moment in time to join the Lord in the air.

There are many that still hold to the view that emerged in the Medieval church (Catholic and Protestant) that the "Second Coming" of Christ and the "Rapture" are somehow the same. Yet there seems to be a number of indications that these are distinct and separate.

There is also predicted an unparalleled "time of trouble" that Jesus called the "Great Tribulation."1 Many hold to the view that the Rapture of the church will occur after that specific period of time, thus, closely associating it with the Second Coming. This is known as the "post-tribulation" view."

Post-Tribulation Views

There are at least four distinct types of post-tribulational views:2

Classic post-tribulationism (J. Barton Payne, et al);
Semi-classic post-tribulation ism (Alexander Reese);
Futuristic post-tribulationism (George E. Ladd);
Dispensational post-tribulationism (Robert H. Gundry).

These differing views are based upon different approaches, presuppositions, and argumentation. In fact, they substantially contradict each other. As one insists on literalness, each of these views must embrace in creasing difficulties. Those of us who cling to a very literal view of the Scriptures believe that the church will be removed prior to the tribulation period (the "pre-tribulation" view). Why? What is the basis for this view?

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The Pre-Tribulation View

The Rapture is characterized in the New Testament as a "translation coming" (1 Corinthians 15:51- 52; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17) in which the Lord comes for His church, taking her to His Father's House (John 14:3). However, at Christ's Second Coming with His saints, He descends from heaven to set up His Messianic Kingdom on earth (Zechariah 14:4-5; Matthew 24:27-31). The differences between the two events are harmonized naturally by the "pre-trib" position, while other views are not able to ac count comfortably for such differences.

A New Testament Mystery

Paul speaks of the Rapture as a "mystery" (1 Corinthians 15:51-54), that is, a truth not revealed until its disclosure by the apostles (Colossians 1:26). The Second Coming, on the other hand, was predicted in the Old Testament (Daniel 12:1-3; Zechariah 12:10; 14:4). In fact, the oldest prophecy uttered by a prophet was given before the flood of Noah and was of the Second Coming! It was given by Enoch, quoted in Jude 14-15.

The movement of the believer at the Rapture is from earth to heaven; at the Second Coming it is from heaven to earth. At the Rapture, the Lord comes for His saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16), while at the Second Coming the Lord comes with His saints (1 Thessalonians 3:13).

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Time to go.



Pack your things, oh wise brethren. Make for the holy land.

Your god is returning.


Delay is death
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Post-tribulation Problems

One of the strengths of the pre-trib view is that it is better able to harmonize the many events of end-time prophecy because of the above distinctions. There are some awkward difficulties with the post-tribulational view:

1) The post-tribulation view requires that the church be present during the 70th week of Daniel (Daniel 9:24-27), even though it was absent from the first 69. This is in spite of the fact that Dan 9:24 indicates that all 70 weeks are for Israel. We believe the church must depart prior to the 70th week, before the final seven-year period (see our briefing package, Daniel's 70 Weeks, for further study).

2) The post-tribulation view denies the New Testament teaching of imminency--that Christ could come at any moment--since there are intervening events required in that view. We believe there are no signs that must precede the Rapture.

3) The post-tribulation view has difficulties with who will populate the Millennium4 if the Rapture and the Second Coming occur at essentially the same time. Since all believers will be translated at the Rapture and all unbelievers are judged, because no unrighteous shall be allowed to enter Christ's Kingdom, then no one would be left in mortal bodies to start the population base for the Millennium.

4) Similarly, post-tribulationism is not able to explain the sheep and goats judgment after the Second Coming in Matthew 25:3- 46. Where would the believers in mortal bodies come from if they are raptured at the Second Coming? Who would be able to enter into Christ's Kingdom?

5) The Bride of Christ, the church, is made ready to accompany Christ to earth (Revelation 19:7-8, 14) before the Second Coming, but how could this reasonably happen if part of the church is still on the earth awaiting the Second Coming? If the Rapture of the church takes place at the Second Coming, then how does the Bride (the church) also come with Christ at His Return?

While many diligent scholars disagree, most of their views derive from their presuppositions about the Scripture. The more literal a view, the more there is an adoption of a pre-millennial pre-tribulation position.

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Baloney.
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Oscar Mayer...and you're either a liar or an idiot.
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""Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

This topic is perhaps the most demanding from the point of view of requiring the greatest amount of integration of many portions of Scripture. Remember Acts 17:11:

"Receive the Word with all readiness of mind, but search the Scriptures daily to prove whether those things be so." "
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Ted Cruz, is that you man?!?
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He is hated because he is a good man.

He is hated because he is openly Christian.
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I am skeptical.

If he is anything like his father, it would appear that he is a Dominionist.

If that is true, that would make him a heretic.

Be very careful with that one.
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Ted Cruz, is that you man?!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72143003


He is hated because he is a good man.

He is hated because he is openly Christian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72155927

I am skeptical.

If he is anything like his father, it would appear that he is a Dominionist.

If that is true, that would make him a heretic.

Be very careful with that one.
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They will not tolerate any real Christians

and you want to fight among denominational beliefs?

After the Antichrist...
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05/05/2016 02:09 AM
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Ted Cruz, is that you man?!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72143003


He is hated because he is a good man.

He is hated because he is openly Christian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72155927

I am skeptical.

If he is anything like his father, it would appear that he is a Dominionist.

If that is true, that would make him a heretic.

Be very careful with that one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30146349


They will not tolerate any real Christians

and you want to fight among denominational beliefs?

After the Antichrist...
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Dominionism, in my opinion, is dangerous because it de-emphasizes salvation and lends itself to Theocracy. In addition to a watered-down gospel, a Theocracy in a fallen world is a recipe for tyranny. I don't think it is a simple matter of a different denomination, I think it leads people astray.

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kitty Do not listen to the liars who go on about a mid tribulation, or late tribulation rapture. The fact is that they don't know when it will be. Why take the risk?

THE RAPTURE COULD BE TODAY - Get right with the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.


:bridea: Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer to as to when it will happen and that is... today. Please Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are asleep in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope
.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words
.

kitty Here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract on this very important subject.WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]
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It's more complicated than "being right with GOD". There's a whole process of conversion of flesh with the Holy Spirit that you have to go through (fiery trial; 1 Peter 4:12) that most "christians" don't know about.

To be saved: Mark 16:16 "Believe on and be baptised". John 1:33 "Baptised with the Holy Ghost" (fire! 1 Peter 4:12). Born again requirement (baptism with fire) John 3.

It's not a deathbed or overnight process with the Holy Spirit. Requires time to get the Gold seal and it requires WORK (Isaiah 58). This is my experience and this is what the bible says. There is nothing contradictory coming from the disciples; there are some contradictory statements coming from PAUL. Who's right? The guys that were Jesus' "posse" or the guy that wasn't? Doesn't mean disregard Paul, means that the things that seem contradictory need to either be put in context or checked with what the disciples said.
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kitty Do not listen to the liars who go on about a mid tribulation, or late tribulation rapture. The fact is that they don't know when it will be. Why take the risk?

THE RAPTURE COULD BE TODAY - Get right with the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.


:bridea: Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer to as to when it will happen and that is... today. Please Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are asleep in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope
.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words
.

kitty Here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract on this very important subject.WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]
 Quoting: Judethz


It's more complicated than "being right with GOD". There's a whole process of conversion of flesh with the Holy Spirit that you have to go through (fiery trial; 1 Peter 4:12) that most "christians" don't know about.

To be saved: Mark 16:16 "Believe on and be baptised". John 1:33 "Baptised with the Holy Ghost" (fire! 1 Peter 4:12). Born again requirement (baptism with fire) John 3.

It's not a deathbed or overnight process with the Holy Spirit. Requires time to get the Gold seal and it requires WORK (Isaiah 58). This is my experience and this is what the bible says. There is nothing contradictory coming from the disciples; there are some contradictory statements coming from PAUL. Who's right? The guys that were Jesus' "posse" or the guy that wasn't? Doesn't mean disregard Paul, means that the things that seem contradictory need to either be put in context or checked with what the disciples said.
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Luke 23:39-43 King James Version (KJV)

39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.

40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
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So how long did it take for the thief dying on the cross beside Yahshua(Jesus) to get his 'Gold Seal' if it's not a deathbed or overnight process and requires work?

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Nathalia was told by an angel on the 17th of July 2015 that:

"There's only a few Months left" From when was this angel counting off these Months? I believe he was counting off these Months from Daniel's seven weeks of 49 Years of 360 Days! The count began on the 28th of June 1967, when Israel issued a decree for the restoring Jerusalem to Israel.

"So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks [that is, 49 Years]..." [Dan.9:25][NASB]

49 Years of 360 Days = 17,640 Days

17,640 Days divide by 30 = 588 Prophetic Months.

When we add the 588 Prophetic Months to the Prophetic Jubilee Year of 12 Months of 30 Days, we have a total of 600 Prophetic Months! This means that from the 28th of June 1967 to the 8th of October 2016 there are exactly 600 Prophetic Months.

The Prophetic Jubilee Year of the Messiah began on the 15th of October 2015. And will end on the 8th of October 2016, the Last Great Day of the Feast of Tabernacles.
[link to thecreatorscalendar.com]

We can now see that on the 17th of July 2015, out of 600 prophetic Months, the angel had counted off 585 prophetic Months. And that when he said "There's only a few Months left" he meant that the Messiah will be coming for us within only 15 Prophetic Months.

Out of 15 Prophetic Months we're now down to just 5 Prophetic Months.

"And this is my prayer: that your love may more and more overflow in fullness of knowledge and depth of discernment, so that you will be able to determine what is best and thus be pure and without blame for the Day of the Messiah, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Yeshua the Messiah..." [Phili.1:9-11]

I'm expecting the Lord to come for us on any Day within this Prophetic Jubilee Year, between now and Saturday, the 8th of October 2016 - the Last Great Day of the Feast of Tabernacles!
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PASSOVER RAPTURE MAY 2016!!!

Found in the Bible Codes.

Saints, get ready to be changed from mortality to immortality!!!

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FIRST-FRUITS, THE END, MAY SEVEN!!!

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"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then THE END will come." [Matt.24:14]





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