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CK722 User ID: 2974820 United States 05/09/2016 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The concept of "vacuum" is easily misunderstood. Earth's gravity is attracting all molecules of earth's atmosphere toward the center of the earth resulting in atmospheric pressure (14.7 pounds of atmosphere per square Quoting: CK722 inch of surface area). In "space" there is not the circumstances of significant gravity, allowing gaseous molecules to free-float without causing perceptible pressure. Vacuum is not itself a force but a word created to indicate degrees of lack of pressure. More trash. So, in our solar system. The sun whips the earth around in an elliptical, beyond that, giant planets. Seems as if the sun's gravitational pull is pretty strong in our corner of space. Amazing how it keeps the earth from pulling inwards into the star, but at a perfect habitat distance, yet Jupiter beyond earth, and much more mass, rotating at s perfect distance as well. In fact, when you start to look at heliocentric theory, with no dogma or bias, it's fucking stupid. It doesn't make any sense. Much like the answer given above makes no sense, it just looks smart. Basically, his answer was a fake pair of Oakleys. Nobody said the vacuum was a force, just that gas from a high pressure system will seek low pressure, with absolutely no work needed. How could we significantly understand a couple of billion year old celestial system with only a couple of hundred years of critical observation as a society and and less than a hundred years as a mostly ignorant human observer. You've been quite polite in your replies. Sorry for being so dismissive. I'm used to dealing with Disinfo trolls like Hydra or Dr Astro. In my world, I like to deal with knowns. You call the universe billions of years old, but you do so completely on faith. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. Maybe it's nothing like we're told. That's my guess. Space travel and exploration all looks to have been made on earth, and sometimes studios/computer cgi. It's all a giant production. So throw away everything you know or have been taught. It seems like a giant deception. Purpose for this are still unknown to me. I do believe we live in a dome. I don't know why we are lied to about that. Maybe some can offer some good explanations. We are always throwing away those things we have been taught that are no longer useful and replacing them with ideas from our present perspective. Would it not be foolish to go into space where there is only one chance to get it right, without first practicing on earth where a mistake is not lethal? Mock-ups are constructed for practice. A picture or a story of a mock-up is easily used by someone who gets excitement from deceiving others. Educate yourself with an open but critical mind and you will not be so easily deceived. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69520829 United States 05/09/2016 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... a phenomenon that celestial geometry says cannot happen. " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571 - See more at: [link to www.space.com] It should say "a phenomenon that celestial geometry says cannot happen, if you ignore atmospheric refraction. |
CK722 User ID: 2974820 United States 05/09/2016 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that boat at the time you mention proves the curvature of the earth. watch how the "mirage" moves up the boat as it move farther away, i.e. its going over the curve. For this video to have validity it needs to be shot from a height significantly greater than the swells between the boat and the observer. Nothing important about the curvature of the earth can be proven with this video. |
Nefarious Libertine User ID: 72061772 United States 05/09/2016 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a flashlight and shine it on the wall. What shape is it in ( a circle). Light travels out equally in all directions that is why there is a circle of light on the wall and not a square or rectangle. Now the sun must shine it's light on the earth in that same circle pattern as the flashlight shinning on the wall. Now the distance from New York to Buenos Aries is 5,277 miles Now the distance from New York to Moscow is 4680 mile When It is day time in New York it is day time in Buenos Aries. Right now in Moscow it's a quarter past 5 in the morning. In New York it is a little after 10 pm. If the sunlight can travel 5,277 miles at once shinning it's light on New York and Buenos Aries at the same time going north to south. Why can't it shine it's light on Moscow and New York at the same time( if the world was flat)going east to west , it is a shorter distance. A rotating sphere explains why this can be possible. On a flat earth this would be impossible to take place. Last Edited by Nefarious Libertine on 05/09/2016 10:26 PM We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be: The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence. Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty. The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE |
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CK722 User ID: 2974820 United States 05/09/2016 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a flashlight and shine it on the wall. What shape is it in ( a circle). Light travels out equally in all directions that is why there is a circle of light on the wall and not a square or rectangle. Now the sun must shine it's light on the earth in that same circle pattern as the flashlight shinning on the wall. Now the distance from New York to Buenos Aries is 5,277 miles Now the distance from New York to Moscow is 4680 mile When It is day time in New York it is day time in Buenos Aries. Right now in Moscow it's a quarter past 5 in the morning. In New York it is a little after 10 pm. If the sunlight can travel 5,277 miles at once shinning it's light on New York and Buenos Aries at the same time going north to south. Why can't it shine it's light on Moscow and New York at the same time( if the world was flat)going east to west , it is a shorter distance. A rotating sphere explains why this can be possible. On a flat earth this would be impossible to take place. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second. Speed is not the issue. Angle of incidence and horizon of the earth sphere can be used to make a valid point. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69081689 United States 05/09/2016 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that boat at the time you mention proves the curvature of the earth. watch how the "mirage" moves up the boat as it move farther away, i.e. its going over the curve. For this video to have validity it needs to be shot from a height significantly greater than the swells between the boat and the observer. Nothing important about the curvature of the earth can be proven with this video. sure it can, you know why they quit filming that boat when they did? because is was fixing to disappear over the horizon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72070153 United States 05/09/2016 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a flashlight and shine it on the wall. What shape is it in ( a circle). Light travels out equally in all directions that is why there is a circle of light on the wall and not a square or rectangle. Now the sun must shine it's light on the earth in that same circle pattern as the flashlight shinning on the wall. Now the distance from New York to Buenos Aries is 5,277 miles Now the distance from New York to Moscow is 4680 mile When It is day time in New York it is day time in Buenos Aries. Right now in Moscow it's a quarter past 5 in the morning. In New York it is a little after 10 pm. If the sunlight can travel 5,277 miles at once shinning it's light on New York and Buenos Aries at the same time going north to south. Why can't it shine it's light on Moscow and New York at the same time( if the world was flat)going east to west , it is a shorter distance. A rotating sphere explains why this can be possible. On a flat earth this would be impossible to take place. what if you use a square flashlight? |
Nefarious Libertine User ID: 72061772 United States 05/09/2016 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a flashlight and shine it on the wall. What shape is it in ( a circle). Light travels out equally in all directions that is why there is a circle of light on the wall and not a square or rectangle. Now the sun must shine it's light on the earth in that same circle pattern as the flashlight shinning on the wall. Now the distance from New York to Buenos Aries is 5,277 miles Now the distance from New York to Moscow is 4680 mile When It is day time in New York it is day time in Buenos Aries. Right now in Moscow it's a quarter past 5 in the morning. In New York it is a little after 10 pm. If the sunlight can travel 5,277 miles at once shinning it's light on New York and Buenos Aries at the same time going north to south. Why can't it shine it's light on Moscow and New York at the same time( if the world was flat)going east to west , it is a shorter distance. A rotating sphere explains why this can be possible. On a flat earth this would be impossible to take place. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second. Speed is not the issue. Angle of incidence and horizon of the earth sphere can be used to make a valid point. I don't care what the speed of light is. It's not relevant. Take your flat earth map and find two cities in the same time zone north and south as far apart as possible somewhere in Canada and way down in Argentina. Set your compass in the middle of those two points and draw a circle connecting the two points. That circle is where the sun MUST shine it's light at the exact same time. When you do that with your flat earth map you will see that it doesn't stand up to reality. We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be: The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence. Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty. The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72070153 United States 05/09/2016 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that boat at the time you mention proves the curvature of the earth. watch how the "mirage" moves up the boat as it move farther away, i.e. its going over the curve. For this video to have validity it needs to be shot from a height significantly greater than the swells between the boat and the observer. Nothing important about the curvature of the earth can be proven with this video. objection overruled. why? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41989832 United States 05/09/2016 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all globetards have to do to prove the earth is a sphere is to circumnavigate it NORTH TO SOUTH. should be simple, yet it has NEVER been done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41989832 I guess those freighters bringing goods to port never travel north to south. ok, lemme dumb it down for some of you globetards....GO AROUND THE WORLD FROM NORTH TO SOUTH ALONG A LINE OF LONGITUDE. it has NEVER been done and imo CANNOT BE DONE. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72070153 United States 05/09/2016 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a flashlight and shine it on the wall. What shape is it in ( a circle). Light travels out equally in all directions that is why there is a circle of light on the wall and not a square or rectangle. Now the sun must shine it's light on the earth in that same circle pattern as the flashlight shinning on the wall. Now the distance from New York to Buenos Aries is 5,277 miles Now the distance from New York to Moscow is 4680 mile When It is day time in New York it is day time in Buenos Aries. Right now in Moscow it's a quarter past 5 in the morning. In New York it is a little after 10 pm. If the sunlight can travel 5,277 miles at once shinning it's light on New York and Buenos Aries at the same time going north to south. Why can't it shine it's light on Moscow and New York at the same time( if the world was flat)going east to west , it is a shorter distance. A rotating sphere explains why this can be possible. On a flat earth this would be impossible to take place. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second. Speed is not the issue. Angle of incidence and horizon of the earth sphere can be used to make a valid point. I don't care what the speed of light is. It's not relevant. Take your flat earth map and find two cities in the same time zone north and south as far apart as possible somewhere in Canada and way down in Argentina. Set your compass in the middle of those two points and draw a circle connecting the two points. That circle is where the sun MUST shine it's light at the exact same time. When you do that with your flat earth map you will see that it doesn't stand up to reality. maybe you are using the wrong map |
CK722 User ID: 2974820 United States 05/09/2016 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that boat at the time you mention proves the curvature of the earth. watch how the "mirage" moves up the boat as it move farther away, i.e. its going over the curve. For this video to have validity it needs to be shot from a height significantly greater than the swells between the boat and the observer. Nothing important about the curvature of the earth can be proven with this video. sure it can, you know why they quit filming that boat when they did? because is was fixing to disappear over the horizon. The swell provides a false horizon. Sorry, no banana. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72070153 United States 05/09/2016 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69081689 that boat at the time you mention proves the curvature of the earth. watch how the "mirage" moves up the boat as it move farther away, i.e. its going over the curve. For this video to have validity it needs to be shot from a height significantly greater than the swells between the boat and the observer. Nothing important about the curvature of the earth can be proven with this video. sure it can, you know why they quit filming that boat when they did? because is was fixing to disappear over the horizon. The swell provides a false horizon. Sorry, no banana. that's no rough sea and what goes up also comes down. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69081689 United States 05/09/2016 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69081689 that boat at the time you mention proves the curvature of the earth. watch how the "mirage" moves up the boat as it move farther away, i.e. its going over the curve. For this video to have validity it needs to be shot from a height significantly greater than the swells between the boat and the observer. Nothing important about the curvature of the earth can be proven with this video. sure it can, you know why they quit filming that boat when they did? because is was fixing to disappear over the horizon. The swell provides a false horizon. Sorry, no banana. if it was swells that was making the boat disappear, you would see the boat at the top of the swell then it would disappear at the bottom of the swell. that is not whats happening here. or any video that i have ever watched. |
CK722 User ID: 2974820 United States 05/09/2016 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68782227 More trash. So, in our solar system. The sun whips the earth around in an elliptical, beyond that, giant planets. Seems as if the sun's gravitational pull is pretty strong in our corner of space. Amazing how it keeps the earth from pulling inwards into the star, but at a perfect habitat distance, yet Jupiter beyond earth, and much more mass, rotating at s perfect distance as well. In fact, when you start to look at heliocentric theory, with no dogma or bias, it's fucking stupid. It doesn't make any sense. Much like the answer given above makes no sense, it just looks smart. Basically, his answer was a fake pair of Oakleys. Nobody said the vacuum was a force, just that gas from a high pressure system will seek low pressure, with absolutely no work needed. How could we significantly understand a couple of billion year old celestial system with only a couple of hundred years of critical observation as a society and and less than a hundred years as a mostly ignorant human observer. You've been quite polite in your replies. Sorry for being so dismissive. I'm used to dealing with Disinfo trolls like Hydra or Dr Astro. In my world, I like to deal with knowns. You call the universe billions of years old, but you do so completely on faith. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. Maybe it's nothing like we're told. That's my guess. Space travel and exploration all looks to have been made on earth, and sometimes studios/computer cgi. It's all a giant production. So throw away everything you know or have been taught. It seems like a giant deception. Purpose for this are still unknown to me. I do believe we live in a dome. I don't know why we are lied to about that. Maybe some can offer some good explanations. If we are in fact the center of the universe, what would that say about us? Maybe this world isn't an insignificant result of a Big Bang. Maybe we are part of something very special. Would they try to keep this truth from us? Would the current concept lead to Godlessness and hopelessness? What do you see in the eyes of your fellow man? This is a question not an answer. I suggest the universe does not have a center, nor an edge. |
Nefarious Libertine User ID: 72061772 United States 05/09/2016 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all globetards have to do to prove the earth is a sphere is to circumnavigate it NORTH TO SOUTH. should be simple, yet it has NEVER been done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41989832 I guess those freighters bringing goods to port never travel north to south. ok, lemme dumb it down for some of you globetards....GO AROUND THE WORLD FROM NORTH TO SOUTH ALONG A LINE OF LONGITUDE. it has NEVER been done and imo CANNOT BE DONE. Make the sun shine in New York and Moscow at the same time dip shit otherwise STFU. We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be: The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence. Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty. The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE |
CK722 User ID: 2974820 United States 05/09/2016 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: CK722 For this video to have validity it needs to be shot from a height significantly greater than the swells between the boat and the observer. Nothing important about the curvature of the earth can be proven with this video. sure it can, you know why they quit filming that boat when they did? because is was fixing to disappear over the horizon. The swell provides a false horizon. Sorry, no banana. if it was swells that was making the boat disappear, you would see the boat at the top of the swell then it would disappear at the bottom of the swell. that is not whats happening here. or any video that i have ever watched. The swell/false horizon is closer to the video recorder than the boat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69081689 United States 05/09/2016 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69081689 sure it can, you know why they quit filming that boat when they did? because is was fixing to disappear over the horizon. The swell provides a false horizon. Sorry, no banana. if it was swells that was making the boat disappear, you would see the boat at the top of the swell then it would disappear at the bottom of the swell. that is not whats happening here. or any video that i have ever watched. The swell/false horizon is closer to the video recorder than the boat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67917596 United States 05/09/2016 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, when I first heard of the flat earth theory, I never dreamed anyone could be so dumb to question the shape of the earth. Then I kept seeing it pop up. Many world leaders, including Obama, have recently mentioned the flat earth. I've looked at numerous photos of the earth from space and see may discrepancies in the size and shape of the continents. I've never found a real picture of a satellite in orbit when there are supposedly thousands of them. I can't understand how engineers have never accounted for the curve of the earth in building bridges and sky scrapers. It seems the more I look into this and try to prove the earth is round the harder it gets for me to do so. Quoting: Childzies Can anyone here provide solid evidence that the earth is a globe because I would love to see it. Go camp out on the live feed of the International Space Station. Go watch for 24 hours. As the ISS circles the Earth you should see the Earth displayed as a thin line every 12 hours; if it were flat. This does not happen and thus the Earth is a globe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72070153 United States 05/09/2016 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all globetards have to do to prove the earth is a sphere is to circumnavigate it NORTH TO SOUTH. should be simple, yet it has NEVER been done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41989832 I guess those freighters bringing goods to port never travel north to south. ok, lemme dumb it down for some of you globetards....GO AROUND THE WORLD FROM NORTH TO SOUTH ALONG A LINE OF LONGITUDE. it has NEVER been done and imo CANNOT BE DONE. Make the sun shine in New York and Moscow at the same time dip shit otherwise STFU. 7 hr diff. why he got to do that? |
CK722 User ID: 2974820 United States 05/09/2016 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all globetards have to do to prove the earth is a sphere is to circumnavigate it NORTH TO SOUTH. should be simple, yet it has NEVER been done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41989832 I guess those freighters bringing goods to port never travel north to south. ok, lemme dumb it down for some of you globetards....GO AROUND THE WORLD FROM NORTH TO SOUTH ALONG A LINE OF LONGITUDE. it has NEVER been done and imo CANNOT BE DONE. Make the sun shine in New York and Moscow at the same time dip shit otherwise STFU. Not sure what your point is. Boats have always traveled north/south from New York to South Africa and other N/S routes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72070153 United States 05/09/2016 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69081689 sure it can, you know why they quit filming that boat when they did? because is was fixing to disappear over the horizon. The swell provides a false horizon. Sorry, no banana. if it was swells that was making the boat disappear, you would see the boat at the top of the swell then it would disappear at the bottom of the swell. that is not whats happening here. or any video that i have ever watched. The swell/false horizon is closer to the video recorder than the boat. that pretty stupid dude. |
914 User ID: 71406112 United States 05/09/2016 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, when I first heard of the flat earth theory, I never dreamed anyone could be so dumb to question the shape of the earth. Then I kept seeing it pop up. Many world leaders, including Obama, have recently mentioned the flat earth. I've looked at numerous photos of the earth from space and see may discrepancies in the size and shape of the continents. I've never found a real picture of a satellite in orbit when there are supposedly thousands of them. I can't understand how engineers have never accounted for the curve of the earth in building bridges and sky scrapers. It seems the more I look into this and try to prove the earth is round the harder it gets for me to do so. Quoting: Childzies Can anyone here provide solid evidence that the earth is a globe because I would love to see it. Go camp out on the live feed of the International Space Station. Go watch for 24 hours. As the ISS circles the Earth you should see the Earth displayed as a thin line every 12 hours; if it were flat. This does not happen and thus the Earth is a globe. Question: What if it circled the Artic on flat earth? Wouldn't you see the same oceans and continents? DEDEDEDE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72070153 United States 05/09/2016 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, when I first heard of the flat earth theory, I never dreamed anyone could be so dumb to question the shape of the earth. Then I kept seeing it pop up. Many world leaders, including Obama, have recently mentioned the flat earth. I've looked at numerous photos of the earth from space and see may discrepancies in the size and shape of the continents. I've never found a real picture of a satellite in orbit when there are supposedly thousands of them. I can't understand how engineers have never accounted for the curve of the earth in building bridges and sky scrapers. It seems the more I look into this and try to prove the earth is round the harder it gets for me to do so. Quoting: Childzies Can anyone here provide solid evidence that the earth is a globe because I would love to see it. Go camp out on the live feed of the International Space Station. Go watch for 24 hours. As the ISS circles the Earth you should see the Earth displayed as a thin line every 12 hours; if it were flat. This does not happen and thus the Earth is a globe. iss is fake. you should know better. |
CK722 User ID: 2974820 United States 05/09/2016 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if it was swells that was making the boat disappear, you would see the boat at the top of the swell then it would disappear at the bottom of the swell. that is not whats happening here. or any video that i have ever watched. The swell/false horizon is closer to the video recorder than the boat. It would be helpful for you to contribute constructively to the discussion - or not if it is your disposition. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70662268 United States 05/09/2016 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If not, how could there be seasons, longer days and shorter days in different hemispheres? How can the extreme northern and southern ends have close to 24 hour days and nights? Quoting: syncro well, if we live in a dome it could all be controlled What is the origin of the dome and what was it's purpose? Who is to gain what from such an investment? On the 2nd day God created the firmament (dome) to separate the waters above from the waters below |