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Sobriquet™  User ID: 67536071  United States05/09/2016 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be able to study magnetic reconnection and the physics of the solar plasma interacting with earth's magnetic field at small scales and detail not possible by any other means. Thanks. Cool stuff. Government... Govern: CONTROL Ment: MIND CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP) "If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!" -- Kentroversy (02/23/07) The light is always stronger than the darkness. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29 |
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| 7thAdamu User ID: 71164056 United States05/09/2016 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a cool video Doctor, nice work and I'm glad you shared that. The precision they can accomplish is amazing. How fast are those moving? Do they use any other formations? I've been catching satellites while night sky watching using that site that is frequently linked to here. I noticed that green karma, noted. 5* thread. What exactly are they worshipping here? :deadsheep: |
Dr. Astro (OP)Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 72181208 United States05/09/2016 10:27 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not saying that the people from NASA/SpaceX are not smart. But I am saying that they could go about it an entirely different way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69001777  It's convenient, NASA simply claims credit for any and all unknown phenomenon. Well it's not unknown, these satellites identities are known. They were tracked based on their orbits, and theoretically I have enough data here to independently measure and calculate the orbit myself to see if it matches NASA's for MMS. Haven't had time yet to do that myself, but I might later.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71030200 United States05/09/2016 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not saying that the people from NASA/SpaceX are not smart. But I am saying that they could go about it an entirely different way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69001777 It's convenient, NASA simply claims credit for any and all unknown phenomenon. Well it's not unknown, these satellites identities are known. They were tracked based on their orbits, and theoretically I have enough data here to independently measure and calculate the orbit myself to see if it matches NASA's for MMS. Haven't had time yet to do that myself, but I might later.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25488965 United States05/09/2016 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in an area that's very dark at night. Quoting: chuckslik I've had lots of bonfires and lots of time to look at the sky. I've seen satellites zip by and also formations like these. But I focus on shapes and lines. Fairly easy if you just relax and take time to scan the sky. NOSS satellites fly in formation, but they're much farther spaced apart than this. This view is through an 8" telescope, by eye these satellites are too dim to see, and too close together to resolve as individual points by the end. To give you some idea of scale, you couldn't quite fit the full moon in the entire field of view of this camera. try it with military grade NVGs looking through the eye piece, it will open things you haven't seen before. 30,000+ ambient light wow! |
| Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 72181208 United States05/09/2016 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a cool video Doctor, nice work and I'm glad you shared that. The precision they can accomplish is amazing. Quoting: 7thAdamu How fast are those moving? Do they use any other formations? I've been catching satellites while night sky watching using that site that is frequently linked to here. I noticed that green karma, noted. 5* thread. They can vary the formation and spacing as needed to get the data they need on magnetic reconnection. There are rather lengthy papers out there about how this is accomplished. They're moving quite fast at perigee, some 22,000 mph at max according to NASA. |
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| Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 72181208 United States05/09/2016 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in an area that's very dark at night. Quoting: chuckslik I've had lots of bonfires and lots of time to look at the sky. I've seen satellites zip by and also formations like these. But I focus on shapes and lines. Fairly easy if you just relax and take time to scan the sky. NOSS satellites fly in formation, but they're much farther spaced apart than this. This view is through an 8" telescope, by eye these satellites are too dim to see, and too close together to resolve as individual points by the end. To give you some idea of scale, you couldn't quite fit the full moon in the entire field of view of this camera. try it with military grade NVGs looking through the eye piece, it will open things you haven't seen before. 30,000+ ambient light wow! I've used IIE before (image intensified eyepieces, NVG for telescopes). Personally I prefer the more natural look of CCD images, but to each their own. |
| Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 72181208 United States05/09/2016 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try actually learning how orbits work instead of smoking dope. Yes, they exist, I track them myself. Get over it. Last Edited by Astromut on 05/09/2016 10:32 PM |
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| RD47 User ID: 63636737 United States05/09/2016 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The MMS mission is studying magnetic reconnection between the earth and sun. Recently they became the tightest formation of satellites after reducing their spacing to 6 miles, and also hold the records for the fastest and the highest altitude functioning GPS receiver. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Of course all those records may have been broken at some point by classified military satellites, either US or otherwise, but for civilian satellites it's not too shabby. I tracked them in orbit last night, in spite of their exceptionally low altitude over the horizon. They became significantly dimmer over time as they ascended towards apogee, but I was dead asleep by then and unable to compensate by increasing the exposure time. Still, you can see how dramatically changed the formation appears after it re-emerged from being obscured by a tree. The satellites are designed to reach their optimal formation near apogee (the farthest point from earth in the orbit) and becomes more elongated near perigee (the closest point to earth). LOL, how can you prove those are SATELLITES??? Got any actual pics of one to share??? Of course you don't, because it's just more BS from whores like you and NASA.  |
| Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 72181208 United States05/09/2016 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The MMS mission is studying magnetic reconnection between the earth and sun. Recently they became the tightest formation of satellites after reducing their spacing to 6 miles, and also hold the records for the fastest and the highest altitude functioning GPS receiver. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Of course all those records may have been broken at some point by classified military satellites, either US or otherwise, but for civilian satellites it's not too shabby. I tracked them in orbit last night, in spite of their exceptionally low altitude over the horizon. They became significantly dimmer over time as they ascended towards apogee, but I was dead asleep by then and unable to compensate by increasing the exposure time. Still, you can see how dramatically changed the formation appears after it re-emerged from being obscured by a tree. The satellites are designed to reach their optimal formation near apogee (the farthest point from earth in the orbit) and becomes more elongated near perigee (the closest point to earth). LOL, how can you prove those are SATELLITES??? Got any actual pics of one to share??? Of course you don't, because it's just more BS from whores like you and NASA. I just presented video from my own telescope showing the satellites you freaking moron. And yes I can calculate their orbits their distance and their velocity completely independent of NASA. Don't worry, I'll be sure to make another video explaining all of this to you idiots. Last Edited by Astromut on 05/09/2016 10:47 PM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64805035  Canada05/09/2016 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great videography. Do you happen to know how far away they are? Do they reflect sunlight all night? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72183987 At perigee they're a bit above 1000 km, at apogee they're at about 70000 km altitude. They generally have line of sight to the sun throughout the night. Off the top of my head they were about halfway to apogee by the end of the video, but I'd have to look up the exact numbers. IF these things are like the size of a bus, how would they even be visible at 1000 km? |
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| Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 72181208 United States05/09/2016 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great videography. Do you happen to know how far away they are? Do they reflect sunlight all night? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72183987 At perigee they're a bit above 1000 km, at apogee they're at about 70000 km altitude. They generally have line of sight to the sun throughout the night. Off the top of my head they were about halfway to apogee by the end of the video, but I'd have to look up the exact numbers. IF these things are like the size of a bus, how would they even be visible at 1000 km? Because they reflect light. I don't have to resolve them in order to detect them as point-like light sources. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71032873 United States05/09/2016 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The MMS mission is studying magnetic reconnection between the earth and sun. Recently they became the tightest formation of satellites after reducing their spacing to 6 miles, and also hold the records for the fastest and the highest altitude functioning GPS receiver. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Of course all those records may have been broken at some point by classified military satellites, either US or otherwise, but for civilian satellites it's not too shabby. I tracked them in orbit last night, in spite of their exceptionally low altitude over the horizon. They became significantly dimmer over time as they ascended towards apogee, but I was dead asleep by then and unable to compensate by increasing the exposure time. Still, you can see how dramatically changed the formation appears after it re-emerged from being obscured by a tree. The satellites are designed to reach their optimal formation near apogee (the farthest point from earth in the orbit) and becomes more elongated near perigee (the closest point to earth). LOL, how can you prove those are SATELLITES??? Got any actual pics of one to share??? Of course you don't, because it's just more BS from whores like you and NASA. I just presented video from my own telescope showing the satellites you freaking moron. And yes I can calculate their orbits their distance and their velocity completely independent of NASA. Don't worry, I'll be sure to make another video explaining all of this to you idiots. Truly a thankless job. |
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| Sobriquet™ User ID: 67536071 United States05/09/2016 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The MMS mission is studying magnetic reconnection between the earth and sun. Recently they became the tightest formation of satellites after reducing their spacing to 6 miles, and also hold the records for the fastest and the highest altitude functioning GPS receiver. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Of course all those records may have been broken at some point by classified military satellites, either US or otherwise, but for civilian satellites it's not too shabby. I tracked them in orbit last night, in spite of their exceptionally low altitude over the horizon. They became significantly dimmer over time as they ascended towards apogee, but I was dead asleep by then and unable to compensate by increasing the exposure time. Still, you can see how dramatically changed the formation appears after it re-emerged from being obscured by a tree. The satellites are designed to reach their optimal formation near apogee (the farthest point from earth in the orbit) and becomes more elongated near perigee (the closest point to earth). LOL, how can you prove those are SATELLITES??? Got any actual pics of one to share??? Of course you don't, because it's just more BS from whores like you and NASA. Ummm....can you prove they're not satellites? Of course you can't. I saw Naval satellites fly over in formation once. Freaked me out so much I had to go home and look them up. I never saw two sats fly in formation before like that. But I've watched hundreds of satellites and the ISS fly over dozens of times. It's an awesome sight. I've also had two triangle ufo sightings that freaked me out way more though. That was way more awesome and a bit scary and unnerving. When a TR3b flies over you tend to know what you're looking at. When you see one you know you're seeing one. When you see another one a year later you really know they're real. My impression is that they are military. Now if you can prove there are not satellites in orbit that would be awesome. Really, really awesome. Bring your proof. Show us like Astro showed us this tight formation. But until then...you have no say. Government... Govern: CONTROL Ment: MIND CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP) "If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!" -- Kentroversy (02/23/07) The light is always stronger than the darkness. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71032873 United States05/09/2016 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The MMS mission is studying magnetic reconnection between the earth and sun. Recently they became the tightest formation of satellites after reducing their spacing to 6 miles, and also hold the records for the fastest and the highest altitude functioning GPS receiver. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Of course all those records may have been broken at some point by classified military satellites, either US or otherwise, but for civilian satellites it's not too shabby. I tracked them in orbit last night, in spite of their exceptionally low altitude over the horizon. They became significantly dimmer over time as they ascended towards apogee, but I was dead asleep by then and unable to compensate by increasing the exposure time. Still, you can see how dramatically changed the formation appears after it re-emerged from being obscured by a tree. The satellites are designed to reach their optimal formation near apogee (the farthest point from earth in the orbit) and becomes more elongated near perigee (the closest point to earth). LOL, how can you prove those are SATELLITES??? Got any actual pics of one to share??? Of course you don't, because it's just more BS from whores like you and NASA. Ummm....can you prove they're not satellites? Of course you can't. I saw Naval satellites fly over in formation once. Freaked me out so much I had to go home and look them up. I never saw two sats fly in formation before like that. But I've watched hundreds of satellites and the ISS fly over dozens of times. It's an awesome sight. I've also had two triangle ufo sightings that freaked me out way more though. That was way more awesome and a bit scary and unnerving. When a TR3b flies over you tend to know what you're looking at. When you see one you know you're seeing one. When you see another one a year later you really know they're real. My impression is that they are military. Now if you can prove there are not satellites in orbit that would be awesome. Really, really awesome. Bring your proof. Show us like Astro showed us this tight formation. But until then...you have no say. Eat shit, satellites aren't real. |
| Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 72181208 United States05/09/2016 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Curious, but how did the tree get in the way? Isn't the camera able to be moved away from the tree to an open area? Or was this tree floating in space too? I'm confused about the tree??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70662268 As listed at the beginning of the video, the camera is an 8 inch Meade lx200. That is a telescope, and not one that can easily be moved while it is in operation. The telescope was set up as far from the tree as I could get it, but the satellites were not far enough above the horizon. Thus they were below the altitude limit for that location. Due to their increasing distance from Earth and reduced velocity, the Earth's rotation eventually brought them back into view. |
| Sobriquet™ User ID: 67536071 United States05/09/2016 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The MMS mission is studying magnetic reconnection between the earth and sun. Recently they became the tightest formation of satellites after reducing their spacing to 6 miles, and also hold the records for the fastest and the highest altitude functioning GPS receiver. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Of course all those records may have been broken at some point by classified military satellites, either US or otherwise, but for civilian satellites it's not too shabby. I tracked them in orbit last night, in spite of their exceptionally low altitude over the horizon. They became significantly dimmer over time as they ascended towards apogee, but I was dead asleep by then and unable to compensate by increasing the exposure time. Still, you can see how dramatically changed the formation appears after it re-emerged from being obscured by a tree. The satellites are designed to reach their optimal formation near apogee (the farthest point from earth in the orbit) and becomes more elongated near perigee (the closest point to earth). LOL, how can you prove those are SATELLITES??? Got any actual pics of one to share??? Of course you don't, because it's just more BS from whores like you and NASA. Ummm....can you prove they're not satellites? Of course you can't. I saw Naval satellites fly over in formation once. Freaked me out so much I had to go home and look them up. I never saw two sats fly in formation before like that. But I've watched hundreds of satellites and the ISS fly over dozens of times. It's an awesome sight. I've also had two triangle ufo sightings that freaked me out way more though. That was way more awesome and a bit scary and unnerving. When a TR3b flies over you tend to know what you're looking at. When you see one you know you're seeing one. When you see another one a year later you really know they're real. My impression is that they are military. Now if you can prove there are not satellites in orbit that would be awesome. Really, really awesome. Bring your proof. Show us like Astro showed us this tight formation. But until then...you have no say. Eat shit, satellites aren't real. OK. Now run along shillbot. Government... Govern: CONTROL Ment: MIND CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP) "If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!" -- Kentroversy (02/23/07) The light is always stronger than the darkness. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29 |
| Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 72181208 United States05/09/2016 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Curious, but how did the tree get in the way? Isn't the camera able to be moved away from the tree to an open area? Or was this tree floating in space too? I'm confused about the tree??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70662268 I doubt the OP was the one who actually recorded that. Eat shit, I recorded that. I already said so in the thread. |
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