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| Anonymous Coward
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7/18/2008 1:20 PM
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[link to rawstory.com]
A leading cyber-security expert and former adviser to Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) says he has fresh evidence regarding election fraud on Diebold electronic voting machines during the 2002 Georgia gubernatorial and senatorial elections.
Stephen Spoonamore is the founder and until recently the CEO of Cybrinth LLC, an information technology policy and security firm that serves Fortune 100 companies. At a little noticed press conference in Columbus, Ohio Thursday, he discussed his investigation of a computer patch that was applied to Diebold Election Systems voting machines in Georgia right before that state's November 2002 election.
Spoonamore is one of the most prominent cyber-security experts in the country. He has appeared on CNN's Lou Dobbs and ABC's World News Tonight, and has security clearances from his work with the intelligence community and other government agencies, as well as the Department of Defense, and is one of the world’s leading authorities on hacking and cyber-espionage.
In 1995, Spoonamore received a civilian citation for his work with the Department of Defense. He was again recognized for his contributions in 2004 by the Department of Homeland Security. Spoonamore is also a registered Republican and until recently was advising the McCain campaign.
Spoonamore received the Diebold patch from a whistleblower close to the office of Cathy Cox, Georgia’s then-Secretary of State. In discussions with RAW STORY, the whistleblower -- who wishes to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation -- said that he became suspicious of Diebold's actions in Georgia for two reasons. The first red flag went up when the computer patch was installed in person by Diebold CEO Bob Urosevich, who flew in from Texas and applied it in just two counties, DeKalb and Fulton, both Democratic strongholds. The source states that Cox was not privy to these changes until after the election and that she became particularly concerned over the patch being installed in just those two counties.
The whistleblower said another flag went up when it became apparent that the patch installed by Urosevich had failed to fix a problem with the computer clock, which employees from Diebold and the Georgia Secretary of State’s office had been told the patch was designed specifically to address.
Some critics of electronic voting raised questions about the 2002 Georgia race even at the time. Incumbent Democratic Sen. Max Cleland, who was five percentage points ahead of Republican challenger Saxby Chambliss in polls taken a week before the vote, lost 53% to 46%. Incumbent Democratic Governor Roy Barnes, who led challenger Sonny Perdue in the polls by eleven points, lost 51% to 46%. However, because the Diebold machines used throughout the state provided no paper trail, it was impossible to ask for a recount in either case.
Concerned by the electoral outcome, the whistleblower approached Spoonamore because of his qualifications and asked him to examine the Diebold patch.
McCain adviser reported patch to Justice Department
The Ohio press conference was organized by Cliff Arnebeck and three other attorneys, who had filed a challenge to the results of that the 2004 presidential election in Ohio in December, 2004. That challenge was withdrawn, but in August 2006 Arnebeck filed a new case, King Lincoln Bronzeville Neighborhood Association v. Blackwell, alleging civil rights violations in the 2004 voting. The case was stayed in 2007. On Thursday, Arnebeck filed a motion to remove the stay and allow fresh investigation.
Individuals close to Arnebeck's office said Spoonamore confirmed that the patch included nothing to repair a clock problem. Instead, he identified two parallel programs, both having the full software code and even the same audio instructions for the deaf. Spoonamore said he could not understand the need for a second copy of the exact same program -- and without access to the machine for which the patch was designed, he could not learn more. Instead, he took the evidence to the Cyber-Security Division of the Department of Justice and reported the series of events to authorities. The Justice Department has not yet acted on his report.
Allegations surrounding Ohio in 2004
At the Ohio press conference yesterday, the former McCain adviser said Michael Connell, of the Republican Internet development firm New Media Communications, had designed a system that made possible the real-time "tuning" of election tabulators once Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell had outsourced the hosting of vote counting on the same server which hosted GOP campaign IT systems. He said he didn't believe Connell was behind the alleged fraud, but that he should be considered a key witness.
Spoonamore also confirmed he's working with Connell on overseas election issues and that Connell is now working as John McCain's IT developer.
Connell has a long history with the Republican Party's IT infrastructure. In 2001, for example, he set up MajorityWhip.gov for then House Majority Whip Tom DeLay. He also helped built georgewbush.com, as well as the Ohio GOP site Spoonamore referenced.
Sources close to Spoonamore said he was very concerned that he would lose his contracts as a result of coming forward and would take a "large financial hit." These sources added that, despite his concerns, Spoonamore felt obligated to reveal what he knows to the public. "He felt he had no choice as an American citizen but to come forward, and he also knows the likely consequences of him doing so," one source said. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470214
7/18/2008 1:33 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
"Virtual Voting"!
Yeah, that's the ticket!
:fu: |
| canislatrans 
Coyo
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7/18/2008 1:42 PM
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a day late and a dollar short.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287211
7/18/2008 3:00 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
Can you say that maybe the payoff money is drying up and people are deciding to stop the corruption instead of going down with the ship.
You may not be involved, but if you know something is going down did he only find out in 2008 about something that happen 2 to 4 years ago, or did the payoff fall thru and he's decided to not be a patsy anylong. Time will tell, but I believe the corrupt money well is drying up. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287211
7/18/2008 3:00 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
Can you say that maybe the payoff money is drying up and people are deciding to stop the corruption instead of going down with the ship.
You may not be involved, but if you know something is going down did he only find out in 2008 about something that happen 2 to 4 years ago, or did the payoff fall thru and he's decided to not be a patsy anylong. Time will tell, but I believe the corrupt money well is drying up. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/18/2008 3:09 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
nothing to see here ...  |
| KAT MAMA
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7/18/2008 3:19 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
They're "suggesting"??? Bullfreakin'--crap. They KNOW. But I guess it's a start... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470237
7/18/2008 3:24 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
 really? I didn't hear it on fox. |
| zacksavage
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7/18/2008 3:24 PM
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a day late and a dollar short. Quoting: canislatrans
Yup.
Z
What the fool cannot learn, he laughs at, thinking that by his laughter he shows superiority instead of a latent idiocy. ~~ Marie Corelli |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 454773
7/18/2008 3:50 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
Good, I like Bush, he's doesn't hesistate to invade shit and blow stuff up. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 402574
7/18/2008 4:21 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
And they will keep on using them knowing full well they are being manipulated. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/18/2008 4:54 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
Can you say that maybe the payoff money is drying up and people are deciding to stop the corruption instead of going down with the ship.
You may not be involved, but if you know something is going down did he only find out in 2008 about something that happen 2 to 4 years ago, or did the payoff fall thru and he's decided to not be a patsy anylong. Time will tell, but I believe the corrupt money well is drying up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 287211
Someone has known this for 6 years and now they are coming to light... I really think bag monies are becoming scarce and you are seeing the unraveling. |
| Opener of the Way
Obist
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7/18/2008 6:12 PM
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"Clinton Eugene Curtis; a former programmer for NASA and Exxon has finally come forward to testify before the US Judiciary that he was enlisted by Republicans to create a program which could guarantee Bush's presidential election victory."
[link to video.google.com]
The way I see it there is no reason to bother voting anymore.
System is broken.
May all your dreams become reality. |
| mathetes
User ID: 327572
7/18/2008 6:30 PM
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The 2006 elections were of course tampered with.
The proof
The Senate election was part of the "Democratic sweep" of the 2006 elections, in which no Congressional or gubernatorial seat held by a Democrat was won by a Republican.
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: John 11:25 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470309
7/18/2008 6:45 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
Old news that the election was rigged.
Sad news that the apathetic Americans sit around and allow corrupt politicians to pass bills and make laws that keep screwing them over.
I guess they deserve it. |
| Queen
User ID: 422489
7/18/2008 7:09 PM
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Can you say that maybe the payoff money is drying up and people are deciding to stop the corruption instead of going down with the ship.
You may not be involved, but if you know something is going down did he only find out in 2008 about something that happen 2 to 4 years ago, or did the payoff fall thru and he's decided to not be a patsy anylong. Time will tell, but I believe the corrupt money well is drying up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 287211
Hey buddy, the title says 2002, the year is 2008. For 6 years this stuff is stayed in the dark. Why is it coming to light now? I will say that not being able to payoff people to keep secrets, burning their monies with the declining economies, and knowing they may end up being the fall guys for the corrupt activity expecially 911 may make alot realize that either you come clean now or take the fall.
I'm just wondering how many are going to take the fall. Not everyone is going to rise to the top just because they know what happened and have kept their mouths shut.
I guess we are in the wait and see game.
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 455142
7/18/2008 9:22 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
The 2006 elections were of course tampered with.
The proof
The Senate election was part of the "Democratic sweep" of the 2006 elections, in which no Congressional or gubernatorial seat held by a Democrat was won by a Republican. Quoting: mathetes
Damn! You're a whole bunch of stupid aren't you?! |
| Garbage Collector
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7/18/2008 9:44 PM | | ShadowDancer
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7/18/2008 10:00 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
I have mentioned the videotaped sworn testimony in front of congress for several yrs-many were unaware-glad to see it is not suicided.
They have also had convictions for the fraud in Ohio and moved towards that elsewhere-but there are some $$$$$$$$$$$heavy movers and shakers$$$$$$$$
Seems there are so many synchronistic sections throughout, I am surprised so few can see the full scope-as long as it has gone on-and there were people speaking out,but too many were comfortable not seeing or hearing, and I reflect back and wonder why were so many broadsided or refused to entertain anything other than their bias regardless of the obvious facts.(if one researched)
In several decades I have never voted for those machines to replace paper trails or real people-did any of you tell congress we needed electronic machines(really???)
So many job shortages-so we contract and outsource more jobs, or have a defective, easily hacked, machine dictate to us-Easily compromised-TOO DAMN EASY from even my IT insight-and it is limited
Enough of these facades
Let me guess,conspiracy site and all
hmmm,mccain and obama are both found to be not as Naturalized in their birth as the law requires,neither of them for differing reasons...ignorance is bliss until...
This, although many may have alluded the same for one or both candidates-for some time is being ignored, across the board...whomever tried to investigate passport of one still is having 'issues'
"suddenly" around the elections it is discovered-played off one than the other
surprise
shock
the support, especially the minorities supporting him-start to suspect, then EXPECT the typical bigotries and possibly be incited to react
race war-more media driven than factual(although we still have racism...it has decreased the last 50 yrs)
fanning the flames focusing on differences-the Beijing stuff, the failing elections, the anticipated worsening economics...then
suddenly King George saves the day-as getting into Iraq soon is on the table for the decider....
geez-riots,martial law-due to the need to sort out this travesty of election fraud and a viable candidate...one that has dotted their i's and crossed their t's
Job shortages? Become an election officer....great way to take back the vote
provide jobs...and an base education in govt that many no longer seem to get...
Just an idea-too logical, and that kind of reasoning gets one threatened in DC lobbyist lizard lounge |
| ShadowDancer
User ID: 287857
7/18/2008 10:21 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
Can you say that maybe the payoff money is drying up and people are deciding to stop the corruption instead of going down with the ship.
You may not be involved, but if you know something is going down did he only find out in 2008 about something that happen 2 to 4 years ago, or did the payoff fall thru and he's decided to not be a patsy anylong. Time will tell, but I believe the corrupt money well is drying up.
Hey buddy, the title says 2002, the year is 2008. For 6 years this stuff is stayed in the dark. Why is it coming to light now? I will say that not being able to payoff people to keep secrets, burning their monies with the declining economies, and knowing they may end up being the fall guys for the corrupt activity expecially 911 may make alot realize that either you come clean now or take the fall.
I'm just wondering how many are going to take the fall. Not everyone is going to rise to the top just because they know what happened and have kept their mouths shut.
I guess we are in the wait and see game. Quoting: Queen
It is true Qn, if there is ANYTHING SALVAGEABLE in these vipers who appear as humans...anything of value, this is their moment-as those who contributed to the downfall(albeit some who had nothing to do w/it)will be accountable to the Most High-one way or the other,easy or hard-they get to choose-but they know what is coming-they can feel it throughout-whether they will admit it or not,they know.I hope they make the right decision-
or let their deeds and silence bind them,while their neighbor was ensnared and slayed, they sought their own safety above all others-they shall be remembered accordingly.
admittedly, few can,but those that can, do, not by ease and safety, but by strength of courage-as destiny is laid down,each make their choices.
BTW I have not been stagnate with the info-but minds cannot grasp what they refuse to consider. take care  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422489
7/18/2008 10:53 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
My primary blame on this state of affairs in order of importance:
1. OBSOLETE MEDIA - Corruption, all you have to do is look at the Ron Paul Campaign. Like him or not, the way the media ignored and manipulated the public became obvious to those that didn't like him anyway. ANYONE still watching the media is being manipulated and you just think you are to intelligent for that to happen. Most insane people don't think they're insane either.
2. AUTOMAKERS - Corruption has kept us dependent upon oil. There are so many working outside the box because the internet is active with great minds that haven't been dumbed down by the media and the failed university system. Thank god they didn't go to a higher level of school otherwise they would be convidenced that their technology wouldn't work.
3. OFFSHORING- Corruption in ignoring the needs of the country yet now they are seeing these SAVINGS eaten up with the fall of the dollar. Companie neglected their responsibility to their stockholders and employees. As corporate officials we are responsible for the decisions we make and we better make them wisely. We failed ourself and it is becoming apparent that the cost of OFFSHORING is going to be far greater than if you had stayed onshore.
4. CONGRESS - Corruption for allowing EVERYTHING to be ignored and act as you have this countries interest at heart. Allowing executive orders to stand when they are in direct interest of this country is a yes vote by each of you and you CANNOT deny participation.
5. JUDICIAL - Corruption for allowing false claims by entites of IRS and banking to obtain properties in a ponse scheme without justification. Show us the law was all that was asked and YOU ALL ignored that. You are treasonist no better than the terrorist that the administraion want us to be afraid of. YOU personally have defiled your oath to the country and it's citizen. Treason.
6. EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF OUR GOVERNMENT - Corruption in allowing youselves to play GOD with our lives yet have NO consequences of it's outcome. You achieved in ruining our reputation, our good name, our vision for a peaseful future and our economy that you are not finished with. You followed in the footsteps of those before you that called back defenders of the USS Liberty. You didn't even put out the call for 911, you did nothing. With this and our history we see that the intent was to allow this plan to feed an agends that you now have let run out of control. People have woken up, the players you have in control now just don't have the skill to complete the task. You will try to manipulate it further but so many have woken up. There was no need to secure the borders, the terrorist were sitting in the OVAL OFFICE officiating the final score. McCain brought this to light with his eagerness on amnesty, I guess the final stages will be something along the order of a union between Mexico, the US, and Canada.
Anyone that has allowed the corruption to run is responsible for the consequences and if you think that you will be protect by those that have allowed this, please think again. We are granted one thing in this life, we stand accountable and suffer the consequences of our decisions no matter how kind hearted you are. There is an end to this tunnel and you are creating your own ending. Think wisely about how you are allowing it to end. |
| XFBD
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7/18/2008 11:14 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
"Clinton Eugene Curtis; a former programmer for NASA and Exxon has finally come forward to testify before the US Judiciary that he was enlisted by Republicans to create a program which could guarantee Bush's presidential election victory."
[ link to video.google.com]
The way I see it there is no reason to bother voting anymore.
System is broken.
What was in that big white envelope that was given to Curtis after he testified??? Take a look at the end of the video. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/18/2008 11:40 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
System is broken.
gee, ya think? |
| Queen
User ID: 422489
7/19/2008 12:28 AM
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My primary blame on this state of affairs in order of importance:
1. OBSOLETE MEDIA
2. AUTOMAKERS
3. OFFSHORING
4. CONGRESS
5. JUDICIAL
6. EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF OUR GOVERNMENT
Anyone that has allowed the corruption to run is responsible for the consequences and if you think that you will be protect by those that have allowed this, please think again. We are granted one thing in this life, we stand accountable and suffer the consequences of our decisions no matter how kind hearted you are. There is an end to this tunnel and you are creating your own ending. Think wisely about how you are allowing it to end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 422489
I was logged in, but somehow got logged out.
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism |
| mathetes
User ID: 327572
7/19/2008 12:37 AM
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The 2006 elections were of course tampered with.
The proof
The Senate election was part of the "Democratic sweep" of the 2006 elections, in which no Congressional or gubernatorial seat held by a Democrat was won by a Republican.
Damn! You're a whole bunch of stupid aren't you?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 455142
I see! Its only when YOUR candidate loses that the elections are rigged!
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: John 11:25 |
| Wake up tards
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7/19/2008 5:10 AM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
Okay, where the fuck were they in 2002 then?
EVERYONE knew it was a fraud...EVERYONE!
Have you SLAVES had enough yet?!
When the hell are we going to storm the castle?
I live in a nation of petty cowards who will talk shit about some guy in their neighborhood who are half their size, but when a REAL fight SLAPS them in the face, the fucking rednecks run and hide! |
| servant
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7/19/2008 9:01 AM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
Election Cinema FAKE BS, from the voting booth & Media !
The vidual of the power lusting candidates of our age, and the same/change, no change again.
Their speech is smoother than butter, and their words are as sweet as honey, but yet they are drawn swords. Their oaths are without sustenance, bloated fat with falsehoods, bathing in deceit, and they care not to honor a pledge. They are driven by insatiable greed and throne power, longing to be gods, but they are not worthy, even to rule over a pig.
Their tongues are like serpents, sunning on a rock, they take sweet counsel in the open, but behind closed doors they dance with the devil, and rejoice in our destruction, and anxious to bring suffering.
The best of them, are poisonous nettles, weak and traitorous cowards, and shameful failures, big fat liars and flaunting showboats. They all look like sons of kings.
The modern Politician is lacking the power to perform properly at every level, easily subdued, because of their weakness. Not able to withstand temptation, always vacillating, wavering, without faith or rightful judgment and discernment.
The endless toil and hard work of the honest man, they know not, the honor and valor of the soldier willing to give his life for love, truth, happiness and peace, would cause an allergic reaction in them. Bravery is fearful to them, and GOD they fear not. Yet they rejoice in filling the World with wars.
Both hands of the Politician gropes for a payoff, the elders of the congregation whore-monger with them.
They the Liars, these diabolical deacons of pestilence, destitute of light, spawning death and genocide, feverishly murdering virtue and honor and all that is good.
Election time is their romance, with the sleeping populace, now they work, now these rancid serpent's make suave speeches, but soon it will be time to take spoil, it is their specialty and stratagem and ruse, which they do with great guile.
These vultures know already, whom awaits each office, for the votes of the people are not counted, and they have contempt for a fair honest election.
Soon the Movie ends, The Election Cinema will be over, the dead lights are turned off, and the changeling's appointed to their seats and what will have Changed?
Then the fiasco ends, and tyranny increases and takes a firm hold, as the people go lower.
Will the people awaken?
Here is the hope and the truth.
REPENT !
But will anyone listen to GOD's Word ? |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2008 11:12 AM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
I hope they are building condos in Hell for the corrupt bastards who have manipulated the system for personal gain at the expense of the people. Thugs in suits. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2008 11:29 AM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
And it will happen again in 2008. |
| Queen
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7/19/2008 12:40 PM
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Hey it just hit me, if the money is running out promises will be made but the price these people will get is pieces of silver in the shape of bullets piercing their cold hearts.
Things are coming to light because they are at the end of the cliff and they didn't have time to finish the bridge. Over the edge and are going to take as many with them.
Fighting time is over, that is about the only thing that would save them. Martial law is what they want and they just can't seem to run up enough FEAR to get people to buy. It is the lack of FEAR that they are afraid of.
Tell more people about how the lack of FEAR is your strength. Don't insite trouble as it will only come home to entrap you. TO MANY EXECUTIVE ORDERS INVOLVING MARTIAL LAW ARE IN PLACE. Just don't fall for the game, get the public awake and watch what happens.
I now believe a fake UFO event is in the plan. After so many years they have belittled, ignored and kook-kooked so many people on the UFO issues and now IT'S NEWS. Excuse me, but that is only NEWS if you are wanting another manipulation. Watch and see, there will be alot of people that are not connected that will see it for what it is. Only those that have ANY faith in the media will be taken as FOOLS.
People you have seen what was done with elections, you have seen what they did to Ron Paul, you are watching it unfold with the UFO's. It really is to late to battle in the flesh we waited to long, now you have to battle in the spirit if you really want to win.
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287857
7/19/2008 1:44 PM | | Re: GOP cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election | Quote |
Hey it just hit me, if the money is running out promises will be made but the price these people will get is pieces of silver in the shape of bullets piercing their cold hearts.
Things are coming to light because they are at the end of the cliff and they didn't have time to finish the bridge. Over the edge and are going to take as many with them.
Fighting time is over, that is about the only thing that would save them. Martial law is what they want and they just can't seem to run up enough FEAR to get people to buy. It is the lack of FEAR that they are afraid of.
Tell more people about how the lack of FEAR is your strength. Don't insite trouble as it will only come home to entrap you. TO MANY EXECUTIVE ORDERS INVOLVING MARTIAL LAW ARE IN PLACE. Just don't fall for the game, get the public awake and watch what happens.
I now believe a fake UFO event is in the plan. After so many years they have belittled, ignored and kook-kooked so many people on the UFO issues and now IT'S NEWS. Excuse me, but that is only NEWS if you are wanting another manipulation. Watch and see, there will be alot of people that are not connected that will see it for what it is. Only those that have ANY faith in the media will be taken as FOOLS.
People you have seen what was done with elections, you have seen what they did to Ron Paul, you are watching it unfold with the UFO's. It really is to late to battle in the flesh we waited to long, now you have to battle in the spirit if you really want to win. Quoting: Queen
I agree with the lack of fear as a real threat to their agenda
I agree they will stage a mock attack from space-many will believe it. I C that but I also see it piggybacks on others that are not attacking us in any way but protecting us from what these skinwalkers will try. In other words, they will commence bluebeam andGWEN and HAARP to maintain control-they already do the electronic control-truly...but they will try to increase that-it will have very neg affects
Many will perceive an attack-like the theatre of marw will attack,Independence day kind of flavor
Then in the midst of this will be a clarifying event-but most will be buying the attack from space MO
Many may have crossed wires and manyw ill fail-they will falter under the increasing energies and frequencies beyond their normal range-this will cause many to dissassociate
Much of the real will seem very surreal and as though your mind is much more fluid...this is important to get folks adapted to the higher energy state without melting down or overloading the spirit within...this will affect DNA and no matter what is USED AGAINST YOU-IT WILL NOT BE MEASURED AS SUCH-it will be like a parabolic effect on the reality of one-tossing each between this one and the next...like a torus
merkavah/mer KA BA
individual light ship/body
none is needed truly-as the spirit body is what manifests this
So we will have 2 sitiuations presenting that will MIRROR each other...most I C will be in error-sadly, most will be readily overcome if they have NOT DONE THE INNER WORK necessary to discern.Know them by their fruits-a fig does not come from a pear tree nor an apple from an orange...KNOW THEM,knowing the enemy,walk apart from the path they tread-for it is onward to an abyss with Leviathan-let them plead their case to On High-see what follows...My such hesitancy for these demonesque characters. One can sense a ball of serpents...and the Cobra overhead can readily see them...Out of the source of all, ALL comes,mans nature has been shown dualistic-which one will win???The one you feed the most,know that and know truth. Let the reflection in the mirror be true.  tested proven formed in a forge of ancient understanding.
If they are confused or unsure they will be at a great loss
Knowledge may be power, but wisdom is greater
Know yourselves and know what spirit drives you-is that the spirit you want? Is it the one that RESONATES with you atuned/atoned as One
Much more to harmonics here folks-look within-for those with sight it has already been activated-seek the solution with reason as you have rightly said-do not be DECEIVED or enticed by trickery to perform LIKE A CIRCUS ANIMAL
Leave that to the animals and ascribe to something far greater, a noble heritage(her i tage) not the canned spam history many try and feed the dozing public.
The scenario of real help is very real to me and for at least 47+ yrs I have seen it-long ago the orbs,multiple(witnessed by my dad too) contacted
They keep their distance on this planet as they are right here-if needed but I understand the warring-above,overhead-I hear it, and I C it...being seen near me would only cause issues for me here
these beings are real beings and not just a plasma ball-
we are very close to many seeing what I C
others do it too
That is why there are many on the planet now that remember, photographically or esoterically have locked info into energy signatures-they are helping to activate the mass template of consciousness
of Christos consciousness throughout those previously seeded
There is no stopping it-in fact, I welcome their attempts for they are strengthening their own opposition and my energy is still intact...as are others, who have OVERCOME
The overcomers shall and there is no holding back on this energy-all who resist the nwo will be in danger-but the greater danger is in not resisting, or resisting what will be, what must pass first...Let the ones who feel they own the earth step up and explain the destruction of this beautiful planet...I am sure many are waiting to hear about their millions for a bee study...or the new logic to creating radioactive waste that will be hot for 10000s of years-let them give their accounting, many are waiting on earth and overhead...waiting....waiting-all things come to those who wait...and it shall for all. Zero in on the energy and use it to focus on truth,mind and heart with spirit in agreement,and see the peace within apart from the contrived chaos. Chaos provided they will sell "peace" but not provide except by threats, or FORCE like FREEDOM camps, FREEDOM trains...misdirection like Houdini...
Know them by their fruits and direct ones focus to what shall be-according to the Most High and the love of all,for all of our brothers and sisters.
Do not be tricked with staging and lights-NO fear
Be discerning on ALL THINGS
Restrain oneself, from impulsive foolishness,and know within all truth is within and all who are atoned(in tune)will hear what they need to hear, will C what they need to see,will act,taking action as they know they need to-avoid being entrapped or ensnared. Believe the Most High or believe man-know the difference(???)
take care Queen, nice to see deep reflections in the waters.Peace to you of the spirit of Peace.Namaste,SD |
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