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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470249
7/18/2008 6:40 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
[ link to www.ifamericansknew.org]
Cool the founder is a liberal american jewish lady.
Iwonder how she feels about the 2 million dead in Sudan.
Probably doesn't care, because the "good guys'" cousins killed them.
bingo! |
| FF
User ID: 456207 (OP)
7/18/2008 6:42 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
Ah the usual side tracking tactics ...
This thread is not about Sudan which is a sad topic of its own indeed but doesn't excuse the always downplayed wrongdoings of the state of Israel since its foundation, and btw I treat them as a nation like any other regardless of the religion there.
We are grown up enough to leave the Jews and Muslims label out of the conflict aren't we? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470249
7/18/2008 6:44 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
...
I am critical of Israel due to their arbitrary bully behavior, that's all.
The rest is your bad assumption which is the usual zionazi way to smear justified critics you I am not surprised by your innuendos.
I am critical of Israel because they haven't LEVELED GAZA!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 355072
yeah level gaza,syria,an iran...and russia too if they want some..oh yeah thats ezekiel 39 and 39 lol |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470313
7/18/2008 6:48 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
They Shoot Children, Don't They?
[ link to www.ifamericansknew.org]
Here's a quite revealing graph:
[ link to www.ifamericansknew.org]
They Shoot Children, Don't They?
In the year 2000, 80 Palestinian children lost their lives at the hands of the Israelis before a single Israeli child was killed by Palestinians
in the year 2004, 176 Palestinian children were killed as compared to 8 Israeli children, fully 22 times as many
and yet, according to a study conducted by www.ifamericansknew.org,
The New York Times reported on the deaths of Israeli children in that year 3.6 times more than they did on the deaths of Palestinian children
in that same year the major networks reported on the deaths of Israeli children up to 13 times as much as on Palestinian children
since 2000, 971 Palestinian children have been murdered by the IDF and 337 are currently held in prison
more and more evidence is being released on Israel's torture of children according to Defense for Children
injuries to the head and shoulders comprise 70% of the injuries inflicted on children by the IDF, indicating an intentional shoot to kill policy
during shabeh, children are subjected to enforced sleeplessness, beaten, a stinking hood, often filled with feces or vomit is placed over the head. They can also be doused with cold water and put in front of an air conditioner, subject to hours of ear splitting music, threatened with damage to the family.
The kinds weaponry used against children by the IDF include: live ammunition, exploding bullets, unexploded ordinance, vehicular manslaughter; rockets; rubber coated steel bullets; tear gas; stones; beating; sound bomb; fire and chemical material.
The ways in which children have met their death include the following: writing an exam at school; lying in their mother's arms; standing up to stretch while studying; playing soccer; going to a family picnic; sleeping in bed at night.
Whenever a children dies, it's a tragedy.
However, you forgot to say that almost all of the israeli children were killed deliberately by palestinian terrorists, and that almost all of the palestinian children were killed because they were used as human shields by the palestinian terrorists.
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| FF
User ID: 456207 (OP)
7/18/2008 6:51 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
........
However, you forgot to say that almost all of the israeli children were killed deliberately by palestinian terrorists, and that almost all of the palestinian children were killed because they were used as human shields by the palestinian terrorists.
. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470313
You don't believe your extremely cynical innuendo for yourself eh?
The reports how they were killed speak a different language and you know that. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355072
7/18/2008 6:55 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
Ah the usual side tracking tactics ...
This thread is not about Sudan which is a sad topic of its own indeed but doesn't excuse the always downplayed wrongdoings of the state of Israel since its foundation, and btw I treat them as a nation like any other regardless of the religion there.
We are grown up enough to leave the Jews and Muslims label out of the conflict aren't we? Quoting: FF 456207
Yes, we are grown up enough to leave the Jews(Israel) and the muslims (so called palestinians who are ONLY arabs and began calling themselves that in the 1970's) when you thread states Israeli and palestinian (only arabs)
Thanks, NOW I see! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355072
7/18/2008 6:56 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
They Shoot Children, Don't They?
[ link to www.ifamericansknew.org]
Here's a quite revealing graph:
[ link to www.ifamericansknew.org]
They Shoot Children, Don't They?
In the year 2000, 80 Palestinian children lost their lives at the hands of the Israelis before a single Israeli child was killed by Palestinians
in the year 2004, 176 Palestinian children were killed as compared to 8 Israeli children, fully 22 times as many
and yet, according to a study conducted by www.ifamericansknew.org,
The New York Times reported on the deaths of Israeli children in that year 3.6 times more than they did on the deaths of Palestinian children
in that same year the major networks reported on the deaths of Israeli children up to 13 times as much as on Palestinian children
since 2000, 971 Palestinian children have been murdered by the IDF and 337 are currently held in prison
more and more evidence is being released on Israel's torture of children according to Defense for Children
injuries to the head and shoulders comprise 70% of the injuries inflicted on children by the IDF, indicating an intentional shoot to kill policy
during shabeh, children are subjected to enforced sleeplessness, beaten, a stinking hood, often filled with feces or vomit is placed over the head. They can also be doused with cold water and put in front of an air conditioner, subject to hours of ear splitting music, threatened with damage to the family.
The kinds weaponry used against children by the IDF include: live ammunition, exploding bullets, unexploded ordinance, vehicular manslaughter; rockets; rubber coated steel bullets; tear gas; stones; beating; sound bomb; fire and chemical material.
The ways in which children have met their death include the following: writing an exam at school; lying in their mother's arms; standing up to stretch while studying; playing soccer; going to a family picnic; sleeping in bed at night.
Whenever a children dies, it's a tragedy.
However, you forgot to say that almost all of the israeli children were killed deliberately by palestinian terrorists, and that almost all of the palestinian children were killed because they were used as human shields by the palestinian terrorists.
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Yes, poster FORGOT but then that doesn't make Israel look like a "bully" as poster stated. |
| FF
User ID: 456207 (OP)
7/18/2008 6:58 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
...072 how's giyus doin btw? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355072
7/18/2008 7:01 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
...072 how's giyus doin btw? Quoting: FF 456207
Who in the hell is "giyus"???????????????????? |
| ano
User ID: 470233
7/18/2008 7:06 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
Hamas regularly launches attacks against Israel from residential areas.Hamas has a long history of standing behind women and Babies to insure civilian death for World sypathy...World caught on long ago of Hamas and Palastinians are told to daily attack Israel and never accept any peace arrangement from Israel, Iran financially supports the wars against Israel... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355072
7/18/2008 7:09 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
...072 how's giyus doin btw?
Who in the hell is "giyus"???????????????????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 355072
Does ANYBODY know who "giyus" might be??? Just curious. If the poster asked me how this person is doing, I probably should know this giyus |
| FF
User ID: 456207 (OP)
7/19/2008 6:51 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
^^nice acting, lol^^ |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433203
7/19/2008 7:05 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
If you compensate for the 1000+ human shields used by Islam,
compared to the slaughter of innocent children then your Jew hating Islamic asskissing figures would be more in line with reality...
Samir Kuntar...he bludgeoned Einat to death with his rifle butt and stamped on her skull. She was 4 years old...
These are the types of people that people like you defend... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 456207 (OP)
7/19/2008 7:11 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
Former Dutch prime minister accuses Israel of terrorism, Israel "is not behaving like a member of the family of civilized nations"
With retirement and the end to his political ambitions, a former Dutch prime minister has emulated Jimmy Carter and revealed what he really thinks about Israel. It is, says Andreas Van Agt Dutch prime minister from 1977 to 1982, a “terrorist state”
Cnaan Liphshiz – Haaretz June 27, 2008
The emotion in Andreas Van Agt's voice as he lambastes Israel's behavior seems puzzling for a man of his status. It is especially intriguing when one is reminded that this blue-eyed professed idealist is an astute statesman who presided as the Dutch prime minister for five years, until 1982.
Andreas Van Agt [link to www.thetruthseeker.co.uk]
"My involvement in the Middle East is certainly unusual," Van Agt confessed in an interview with Haaretz at his home in Nijmegen, where he discussed Israel, the Palestinians, European foreign policy, the Holocaust and anti-Semitism.
Currently, Van Agt is writing a book about the Israeli-Arab conflict. In December he launched an info-site (www.driesvanagt.nl) about the subject, in which he accuses Israel of brutal treatment of the Palestinians, violating international law and implementing racist policies.
Among other illustrations, the site contains one snapshot of a graffiti slogan said to have been sprayed by Jewish settlers on a Hebron wall, reading: "Arabs to the gas chambers."
Last year, Van Agt spoke as keynote speaker at a controversial solidarity rally with the Palestinian people in Rotterdam, where he lamented the Dutch boycott of Hamas, calling it wrong "and even stupid." He has also been outspoken in accusing the Israel Defense Forces of acting like a terrorist organization.
"In my country, people are highly surprised by my demeanor. Some even say it should be ascribed to my advanced age; that I'm not fully in my right mind anymore," the 77-year-old says with a snicker while sitting under the outdated portrait of the Queen, which hangs on the wall of his modern-style, taupe-colored den.
Van Agt hails from the ranks of the ruling party, the Christian Democratic Appeal. Such statements about Israel can therefore be seen as embarrassing for the current leadership, which is considered one of Israel's staunchest supporters in the European Union.
When Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen was asked earlier this year during a visit to Israel whether he regarded the statements by the former premier as embarrassing to the government, his first response was a hearty laugh. He then distanced himself from the former leader. "Dries Van Agt represents the opinion of one man: Dries Van Agt," Verhagen told Haaretz.
Van Agt nonetheless maintains his statements are embarrassing to CDA top-brass, adding that the embarrassment is not an undesirable effect as far as he is concerned. "I could say that maybe what I'm doing is not as embarrassing to them as it should be," he says.
His penchant for criticizing Israel to varying degrees of acrimoniousness was not characteristic of his term in office. "The Dutch Jimmy Carter", as local media sometimes dub him, says he became vocal after 1999, when his "eyes were opened" during a traditional catholic pilgrimage trip to religious sites in the Holy Land.
"I'm driven partly by my shame for not speaking up for the Palestinians when I was in power, and partly by some striking experiences I had when visiting the Occupied Territories in the recent past," he says. "People often ask me how come I'm so outspoken now, but did not speak up when I was in a position of power. And it's true, I never spoke up for the Palestinians, except for when Sabra and Shatila happened. And even that was in soft terms."
Van Agt says he is still "ashamed" that he made effort to sooth matters for Israel after the 1982 massacre of hundreds of Palestinian refugees by Lebanese Christian militiamen in an IDF-controlled area of Lebanon. "That was my inclination, that was how I was mentally structured vis-à-vis Israel at the time," he says.
But much more than Sabra and Shatila, it was the story of one Palestinian young man from Bethlehem which put Van Agt on his present course, according to the ex-premier.
"In one of my visits to Bethlehem I heard a story, which now I know is just one of many," Van Agt recalls. "It was a story horrendous humiliation of a Palestinian student trying to get to university for a collective exam. His story, which the university president told me, struck me like lightening."
At the last IDF checkpoint on the way, according to the story which Van Agt says he heard from the university president, the student was pulled over and ordered to climb out of the window. "Then the humiliation began. He fell down and was then ordered to walk on hands and feet and bark. Then the soldiers laughed about the Palestinians all being dogs."
That story, Van Agt says, served to undermine his former conviction that "everything which Israel does is what it needs to do for its survival." It launched him into the problem, he says.
"I began studying, figuring out what's going on there. I found one story after the other. Then I started thinking about the 39 United Nations resolutions begging, demanding and imploring Israel to vacate the Occupied Territories. All were dismissed by Israel. Saddam Hussein was attacked after four resolutions, but Israel got 39 and nobody talks about applying even the slightest pressure on Israel to comply with them," he complains.
Europeans, he says, have a political obligation toward the Palestinians which they have overlooked. "All the other Arabs, in some way or another, happy or unhappy, dictatorial or not, have their only states. The only Arabs that never got a state were the Palestinians. That has to do with the former colonialist powers, the U.K. and France."
The second reason for his feeling of commitment toward the Palestinians, Van Agt says, is that "without the worst crime in the history of humanity, the Holocaust, the Shoa, Israel would not have come into existence in that time and in that formula."
Most Western nations, he says, are in some form complicit in the murder of six million Jews by the Nazis, be it by denying shelter for Jewish refugees, or collaborating with the Germans. This resulted in guilt which prompted Europeans "to sacrifice the Palestinians for Israel," he proposes. "The Palestinians paid the price for something they were not responsible for. That is my drive," he says after a short dramatic pause. "And the emotions you see are real and authentic, and they stem from this injustice."
The self-proclaimed commitment that European nations have for democracy, Van Agt argues, means that they should recognize Hamas as a legitimate representative of the Palestinians. "It is not Hamas' government which is illegitimate," he says, alluding to Hamas' victory in the 2006 elections over Fatah. "It is counterproductive and unwise not to talk to Hamas - also because the legitimacy of the current government in Ramallah is questionable."
The three conditions for recognizing Hamas as stipulated by Israel and the Quartet strike Van Agt as stupid. "The first requirement, that Hamas recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state is biased because Israel does not recognize Hamas' right to rule. Where's the reciprocity there?" he complains. Besides, he says, "Israel has never defined its own borders, so demanding Hamas to recognize an entity without clear borders is totally unreasonable."
The demand that Hamas honor the Palestinian Authority's past agreements with Israel is also unpalatable to Van Agt, on the grounds that they were not signed and conducted by a democratically elected, and hence legitimate, regime. To him, the Palestinian Authority consists of a bunch of small, fragmented Bantustans," he says.
"The Oslo Accords and the talks that followed were the most self-defeating thing Arafat had ever done," the former premier observes. "The Accords didn't provide any guarantees to the Palestinians and were not based on international law. And Abbas is continuing with this endeavor which runs contrary to the rights and interests of the Palestinians."
As for the third demand, which is to renounce violence, Van Agt says: "First of all, Israel is still employing violence, so again there's no reciprocity. But besides that, since when does international law renounce the right of occupied people to resist the occupying power?"
When the subject of Hamas' own debatable level of commitment to democratic values comes up - along with the question of whether the Islamist organization should be afforded the protection of a set of values that it does not honor ? Van Agt acknowledges that "things could be better."
He adds: "Hamas' behavior is reason for great concern, that's right. But it's ignorant to judge how Hamas is ruling without taking into account the impossible conditions in Gaza, the biggest prison in the world."
Hamas' suicide bombings are "illegal and detestable" to Van Agt, he says, but he would only agree to call Hamas a terrorist organization if the definition is applied to the Israeli army as well. "If one party is called a terrorist entity because it carries out deliberate attacks against civilians to pursue political goals, then the Israeli army is guilty of state terrorism. That needs to be said, too. Human rights organizations report that the Israeli army has killed more than 3000 Palestinian civilians since the beginning of the second Intifada."
Yitzhak Shamir and Menachem Begin, he recalls, "introduced the bombing of civilians as a military tactic in the run up to the establishment of Israel, and were therefore called terrorists."
The perceived failure of Israel's neighbors to live up to Western standards of democracy is also a result of their conflict with Israel, according to Van Agt. "Maybe I'm a naïve idealist, but I think that if Israel had not evolved into being a disaster for its neighbors then they would behave much batter. Not perfectly, not to the full standard, but much better. I cannot help but put much of the blame on Israel itself, and the pressure that it has placed on its neighboring countries."
However, Van Agt is willing to acknowledge that Israel is currently fighting extremist Muslim groups who are also committed to the destruction of societies like the Netherlands.
In Van Agt's eyes, Israel "is not behaving like a country that deserves to be called a member of the family of civilized nations." This observation applies to the U.S. too, he says, "which is co-responsible for the injustice we have been facing for decades."
According to Van Agt, Israel is making frequent and excessive use of deadly force against the Palestinians. This accusation has been seen as hypocritical of Van Agt by some pro-Zionist detractors in the Netherlands, most notably by the Hague-based Center for Information and Documentation (CIDI.)
In 1977, when Van Agt was justice minister, a group of Moluccan militants seeking autonomy for their group of Indonesian islands hijacked a train in northeast Holland and took its 50 passengers hostage for 20 days. Rather than resolve the situation through dialogue, Van Agt voted in favor of a military operation that left six of the nine hijackers dead, along with two hostages.
The analogy between the use of force in the Moluccan hijacking case and use of force by Israelis against Palestinians is farfetched, Van Agt says. "Given the same set of circumstances, I would still authorize the use of force," he says.
According to his account, it was Van Agt who cast the deciding vote in favor of the action in a small forum of five.
"The prime minister was against the action and another minister was also opposed. I was for it along with two others. We had tried to negotiate for long enough - weeks.
The situation on the train, Van Agt recalls, was becoming critical." Doctors warned us that people on the train might have heart attacks. There was also the possibility that someone might go berserk and attack one of the highjackers - and who knows what kind of bloodshed might have ensued. I would do the same exactly all over again."
The militants' demands nonetheless seem justified to Van Agt, he says. The South-Moluccans, who were seen by many Indonesians as collaborators with the Dutch colonizing power, came to Holland in the 1950s for a temporary stay. They had been promised by the Dutch government that they would get their own independent state, but felt betrayed after the Netherlands failed to deliver.
Over the years, several opinion-shapers, including the German writer and journalist Henryk Broder have accused Van Agt of anti-Semitism because of his criticism of Israel. People from organizations which are critical of Israel and regularly confer with Van Agt, like "A Different Jewish Voice" and United Civilians for Peace, say he is anything but anti-Semitic.
He says he has had to face the accusation because "It's the most effective way of keeping countless others from following my example and speaking about what they really feel."
The accusers, however, allege Van Agt demonstrated anti-Semitism before he became so involved with the Palestinian cause. In 1972, one year after he left his position as a lecturer on criminal law to become justice minister, Van Agt sparked a heated debate by attempting to pardon the last three Nazi war criminals still in Dutch prisons.
At a press conference that same year, he said to a journalist: "I am only an Aryan" in speaking about his intention to bring about the Nazi prisoners' release for health reasons.
"I was what is called a progressive thinker," Van Agt explains. "Now, in the last years of my life, I'm returning to that. I had some very modern ideas about the use and uselessness of applying criminal law sanctions. I have very serious doubts about the use, and hence justification, of detaining people for anything but the heaviest crimes."
"I had these kinds of ideas long before I came to a position of power. I wrote about them and promulgated them in books and articles. So that was nothing new. Then all of a sudden, to the surprise of everyone, including myself and my wife, I became justice minister. And that meant I got the problem of the three remaining Germans war criminals in Dutch prisons on my plate."
The two previous justice ministers, Teun Struycken and Carel Polak, also supported releasing the prisoners in principle, according to Van Agt. "Polak was one of the many highly gifted sons of the Jewish people", Van Agt says. "And justice minister Ivo Samkalden, also Jewish, had released one of the Dutch war criminals already in the 1960's."
"These ministers agreed that holding on to the prisoners was senseless," he adds. "I would still support their release if it happened today. They were of bad health, and one or two of them was senile. I still believe it's nonsense to keep a senile person in prison, and when detaining people doesn't make sense, then it's injustice."
Injustice in the case of the Nazi criminals was not the way to celebrate the reestablishment of Dutch constitutional state (Rechtstaat in Dutch) after the Nazi occupation, he argues. "It needed to be shown in its full potential. Keeping these people in jail served no legal purposes. Specific prevention? They couldn't even handle a pen. And as for general prevention, well, did anyone think the Germans would start another war if the prisoners were released?" Two of the Breda Three were released in 1989. A third died in the southern-Holland prison in 1979.
The famous "Aryan" statement, which grabbed headlines in 1972, needs to be understood in context, he says. "When I just got my appointment as a minister, the first thing I did was meet the press. I was totally inexperienced and green. It was a very informal cocktail party. I went around, mingled, made jokes and was basically having fun with the new friends to come."
Then the question came up. "I should have known it, but I was so naïve then. One journalist asked if I would act to end the continued detention of the three German prisoners. And then I made the gravest mistake. I said that even my Jewish predecessor was unsuccessful in getting them out of jail - 'and I'm only an Aryan.'"
Slowly shaking his head, Van Agt repeats the short explosive sentence. "It was made in self-deprecation. I was deriding myself, a style which has always characterized my presentations. But that wretched word was in the newspapers the next morning. One guy picked out that one sentence from that informal conversation."
The explanations eventually satisfied the Dutch electorate and the press, Van Agt says. "I hadn't heard about the story for 30 years, but when I started becoming critical of the state of Israel, it resurfaced in an effort to silence me. Those who criticize me and others who speak out, always target the person bearing the message. They are not interested in a fair and open debate. Kill the messenger, if you can't beat the message." In earnest tone of voice, he concludes: "I am definitely not an Anti-Semite."
Moreover, he says that no anti-Semite could ever reach a position of power in the Netherlands. "It's absolutely impossible. Even among those who have become highly critical of Israel's illegal policies, there is a deep respect for the Jewish people."
That respect, he says, has developed into a "deeply engrained consciousness of the contribution that European Jews have made over the years to European culture. No one with anti-Jewish sentiments could come to power here."
[link to www.haaretz.com] |
| FF
User ID: 456207 (OP)
7/19/2008 7:14 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
kunta claimed he didn't kill the little girl. says she was killed in the cross fire.
i think that if he had killed her in the way described the israelis would never release him under any circumstances. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 460134
!!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433203
7/19/2008 7:20 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
If you compensate for the 1000+ human shields used by Islam,
compared to the slaughter of innocent children then your Jew hating Islamic asskissing figures would be more in line with reality...
Samir Kuntar...he bludgeoned Einat to death with his rifle butt and stamped on her skull. She was 4 years old...
These are the types of people that people like you defend... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433203 |
| FF
User ID: 456207 (OP)
7/19/2008 7:25 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
Israel is accused of brutal treatment of the Palestinians, violating international law and implementing racist policies!!! |
| Grizzled Old Goat 
The Love Goat
User ID: 470502
7/19/2008 7:29 AM
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.......
Yes they occasionally shoot a fire cracker into Israel that almost never hits anything ...
While the Israelis eg plaster Lebanon with cluster bombs and other technically advanced stuff that is outlawed in any human country. Quoting: FF 456207
Are you saying jews aren't human Dilly? Again, with the nazi-talk? You just don't want to let go of the family traditions, do you?
"Start every day off with a smile and get it over with."
W. C. Fields |
| Grizzled Old Goat
The Love Goat
User ID: 470502
7/19/2008 7:32 AM
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Israel is accused of brutal treatment of the Palestinians... Quoting: FF 456207
You mean like the use of human shields or child soldiers? Is that considered brutal treatment? Pity it's by their own "warriors"..
:hez101: 
"Start every day off with a smile and get it over with."
W. C. Fields |
| Grizzled Old Goat
The Love Goat
User ID: 470502
7/19/2008 7:35 AM
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If you compensate for the 1000+ human shields used by Islam,
compared to the slaughter of innocent children then your Jew hating Islamic asskissing figures would be more in line with reality...
Samir Kuntar...he bludgeoned Einat to death with his rifle butt and stamped on her skull. She was 4 years old...
These are the types of people that people like you defend... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433203
OP and the type of person that agree with him are too stupid about this issue to reason with. Jew hate is a very difficult habit to break, I guess - even when you end up supporting a low-life murderer that would kill you as an infidel in a heartbeat..
"Start every day off with a smile and get it over with."
W. C. Fields |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433203
7/19/2008 7:38 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
Israel is accused of brutal treatment of the Palestinians, violating international law and implementing racist policies!!! Quoting: FF 456207
while Islamic (your friends) attacks against innocent women and children is proven....
Yup same thing...
what a dipshit |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 456207
7/19/2008 7:45 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
Gog you are going to choke on your ever-repeating tactical false accusations one day ...
I live in a human country and I am far from being a nazi ...
How long will you continue to paint me like that only cause I live in Austria? As usual it shows your complete lack of intelligent arguing capabilities, it only shows you're a complete whackjob war wanker, you have nothing but the ever-repeating hollow and stupid personal attacks to offer.
Well what can we expect from a totally hollowed out hate brain ... |
| G. House
User ID: 470511
7/19/2008 7:58 AM
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FreeFlow, the point YOU ALWAYS miss and totally ignore is that if the Palestinians didn't shoot rockets into Israel, send in suicide bombers, or other fruitless attacks; no one would be getting killed.
How much are YOU paid to post all this propaganda anyway? |
| FF
User ID: 456207 (OP)
7/19/2008 8:06 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
FreeFlow, the point YOU ALWAYS miss and totally ignore is that if the Palestinians didn't shoot rockets into Israel, send in suicide bombers, or other fruitless attacks; no one would be getting killed. Quoting: G. House
Not true at all, this is where the conflict started, the Israelis have a history in leveling Palestinian villages eg, no wonder the Arabs are pissed at them:
List of Palestinian Localities destroyed after the creation of the State of Israel (1948)
[link to www.iahushua.com]
That article only shows one part of the oppressing nature of Israel's politics and modus operandi. |
| FF
User ID: 456207 (OP)
7/19/2008 8:27 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
Basically the message of the personal attackers is always the same means Israel is totally innocent, a saint, a dubious god's chosen people and so must not be criticized in any way, and of course the Arab/Muslims/Palestinians are hundred percent guilty.
Sorry this picture isn't real but a wishful thinking.
Fact is the Israelis who claim the chosen label for themselves think they can act along their arbitrary will and violate every ethical and moral law and project every bad results on their self-fabricated enemies and blame only the others.
Peace cannot happen in the ME/NE before Israel starts to behave like a justified member of the human community of countries, which implies that they give up their chosen label of course. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 405597
7/19/2008 9:38 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
Propaganda is never the answer. There is evil on both sides, why try to always paint one side as perfect and innocent and the other evil? Evil comes from individuals not sides. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 460983
7/19/2008 9:49 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
(IsraelNN.com) A student at "Od Yosef Chai" Yeshiva in the Samarian Jewish community of Yitzhar recently assembled a "Kassam"-type rocket and fired it at a neighboring village, NRG-Maariv reported Friday. According to the report, Rabbi Itzik Shapira, who heads the yeshiva, is suspected of involvement in the incident.
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
Bethlehem - Ma'an - Palestinians are not the only ones producing homemade projectiles: Israeli settlers now also have Qassam rockets, according to the Hebrew daily newspaper Ma’ariv.
On Friday the newspaper published details of Israeli settlers from the Yitzhar settlement near the West Bank city of Nablus launching projectiles at a nearby Palestinian village.
Two weeks ago a religious school student made a Qassam rocket and launched it at a nearby Palestinian village, but it landed in an open area, the newspaper added.
The newspaper confirmed that the student, along with the school's headmaster, was detained on Thursday evening and is being questioned over the incident.
Minutes before launching the projectile a group of settlers told Yitzhar residents that they were carrying out an experiment and not to worry about the sound of an explosion.
The loud explosion brought Israeli army forces rushing to the area, thinking the settlers were being targeted. When it was revealed it was the settlers who had launched the projectile, the matter was handed over to the Israeli police.
Police suspect that the student gathered information about making projectiles through internet websites. Investigations are ongoing to discover the source of the explosive materials and whether anyone else was involved.
[link to www.maannews.net]
Homemade Rocket Fired from Jewish Hilltop at Arab Village
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
An Israeli settler admit Israels 400.000 settlers are an important part of the military defence of Israel. That means Israels government are using 400.000 civilians and children as human chields on occupied land for Israel. The use of civilians in military operations is illegal accordeing to international law. Settling occupied land is illegal according to international law.
An Israeli settler admit Israels 400.000 settlers are an important part of the military defence of Israel. That means Israels government are using 400.000 civilians and children as human chields on occupied land for Israel. The use of civilians in military operations is illegal accordeing to international law. Settling occupied land is illegal according to international law.
An Israeli settler admit Israels 400.000 settlers are an important part of the military defence of Israel. That means Israels government are using 400.000 civilians and children as human chields on occupied land for Israel. The use of civilians in military operations is illegal accordeing to international law. Settling occupied land is illegal according to international law.
[link to youtube.com]
Israeli soldiers use Arabs as human shields.
[link to youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275333
7/19/2008 10:20 AM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
People are getting a bit tired of you Jew hating, Nazi, Hitler supporters |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470532
7/19/2008 12:50 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
of course the muslims are going to get ripped off. it's sad about all the dead children tho. |
| FreeFlow
User ID: 456207
7/19/2008 1:16 PM | | Re: 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since Sept. 2000 | Quote |
Found something interesting re the recenet prisoner swap:
However, it is rather astonishing to find out how short the Israeli collective memory is. The failed IDF rescue of Regev and Goldwasser, following Hezbollah’s successful ambush evolved into Israel launching the Second Lebanon War. In an act of retaliation, retribution and vengeance Israel demolished Lebanon’s infrastructure, it flattened southern Lebanon towns and villages as well as some neighbourhoods in Beirut. It killed thousand of Lebanese civilians. Somehow the Israelis managed to forget all of this. The only thing the Israelis see is two black coffins. They even managed to neglect the fact that in return they themselves traded 190 plain coffins containing the bodies of Hezbollah militants.
The Israelis are pretty gifted in seeing themselves only. In their eyes, their pain is somehow superior to the pain others feel. Yet something puzzles me. In the light of the Israeli collective necrophilic weeping event I find myself rather confused. If Israel and the Israelis can hardly get over two tragic Israeli military casualties, how will they be able to cope with the global war they insist upon launching against Iran. If the Israelis cannot cope with two coffins, how will they ever be able to cope with Tel Aviv turning into the site of a mass grave? Their war cries suggest that this is something they seem to insist upon involving themselves in.
[link to palestinethinktank.com] |
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