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7.0 Japan

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coolhandluke74 Subscriber
GLP Bouncer
User ID: 467538
7/19/2008 5:46 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Down graded 6.7
Nothing is ever as it seems
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 461397
7/19/2008 5:46 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Oh and Geogal, I'll id myself as mike.........

Registering hasnt worked for me. I dont know what I am doing wrong, but I havent really felt compelled to find out....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 446728
7/19/2008 6:03 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Fiji has just had one too!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452634
7/19/2008 6:03 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

JAPAN ALWAYS HAS 7.0 QUAKES... NOTHING NEW.
coolhandluke74 Subscriber
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User ID: 467538
7/19/2008 6:16 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

JAPAN ALWAYS HAS 7.0 QUAKES... NOTHING NEW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 452634



They have not had one in some time that big.
Nothing is ever as it seems
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470495
7/19/2008 6:17 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

say bye t yor device
Dread Pirate Roberts
User ID: 469981
7/19/2008 7:20 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Just now, a third one at Santa Cruz

MAP 6.5 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION

Previously, last night:
MAP 5.6 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
MAP 6.7 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
Jesus is coming soon. Are you ready?
"And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." Luke 21:28 (KJV)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470503
7/19/2008 7:25 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Maybe that guy who predicted a big one in the Phillipines will be right... just a day or so off?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 342791
7/19/2008 7:30 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Medium Probability of Tsunami for off the east coast of Honshu, Japan [link to tsunami.jrc.it]

Medium Probability of Tsunami for the Santa Cruz Islands region [link to tsunami.jrc.it]
XXX
User ID: 470541
7/19/2008 10:02 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

there is a 6.0 EQ practically everyday on Earth. No big deal. That psychic was way off! 6.7 is a tiny fraction of an 8.1 and he was thousands of miles off. Don't believe in phonies or you will become one.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 337882
7/19/2008 10:12 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Japan breaking in half.
Geogal
User ID: 373387
7/19/2008 11:01 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

I disagree with both of you. Science doesnt know everything that's going on, but scientists are just as imaginative as us to give it a good guess! Just like october imagined with chaos theory...

Could you elaborate, october? Or was that just a throw away? :) The thing is, EQ are massive events while photons or emotional moods just dont seem substantial enough -- either as mass or otherwise. Excuse the critique, but so far I dont have much faith in this theory. And I am not sure what it is you have against my concern for causality, ie moon beam forces causing EQs?

Geogal, I will follow your thread and participate where I feel I can. It would have been nice to have references from someone other than the same author. Anyway, you sound excited about EQ prediction and, I assume, have expertise in one of the physical sciences. Nice to see a more or less fellow traveller...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 461397


Anyone interested in a geologists perspective on what scientists know and don't know?

To cover them all with a blanket and say yes they know or no they don't is actually not fair. Science IS more of a tool for observation and exploration. Sometimes theories are correct (or more correct based upon evidence shown) and sometimes they flop. But, does one get discouraged and quit? Some do some don't. A scientist in just like everyone else, only they put their brain capacity towards something they've trained or read extensively about or experimented extensively with. Any scientist will let you truthfully know that, no, the general profession as well as the specific speciality, we don't have all the answers. Take astronomy as one example... there is NASA then there are multiple different professional and amateurs who do their observations nightly. An amateur is nearly as likely as NASA to catch some new heavenly body. Why? It's a BIG space out there and one needs to focus, right? But, a scientist even from NASA can't tell you exactly why certain things in space do or are a certain way... they can tell you theory, what's got the most supportive evidence, and what's been observed, right? Effects can be measured and explanations can be offered, but are they right??? Just one example.

As to the sun and moon's effects on the earth... I believe through math and theory even Pluto has a minor effect upon the local bodies, and due t it's size, even Jupiter has a minor effect on the earth, especially when we are aligned with it. I say minor, because as I understand it's not very much but is measurable. the effect of any body upon earth reduces with the distance from earth (d^2). These forces can't been seen, felt, tasted or heard, BUT their effects CAN be measured and observed. I can tell someone about the gravity forces and that they do work. I'm not an expert in WHY they work. I'm interested in earth structure and mechanics. I only dabble in other sciences, enough to maintain an understanding and fill my imagination with absolute wonder at it all.

Hap [link to www.machunter.org]

I'll enjoy any and all discussions with anyone who wants to join the thread. I need to find some time to start the research that I started a few days ago... but, time is a precious thing...
SixEyedcheeseball Subscriber
Welcome
User ID: 470540
7/19/2008 11:03 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Everybody in Japan knows that its really cold up in the Mountains. there really no place to run. So be courteous and nice.
Don't do this Naked.
Geogal
User ID: 373387
7/19/2008 11:04 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Oh and Geogal, I'll id myself as mike.........

Registering hasnt worked for me. I dont know what I am doing wrong, but I havent really felt compelled to find out....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 461397


Good enough. I'll look forward to more chats with you, Mike.
Geogal
User ID: 373387
7/19/2008 11:12 AM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Just now, a third one at Santa Cruz

MAP 6.5 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION

Previously, last night:
MAP 5.6 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
MAP 6.7 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

add
5.3 2008/07/19 11:45:41 -10.989 164.667 10.0 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
5.2 2008/07/19 11:15:29 -11.020 164.487 43.2 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION

they are having a bit of a swarm... these are only the ones large than Mw5
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470582
7/19/2008 12:07 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Is this supposed to be significant?

Were any fish hurt?
confusefed
User ID: 394453
7/19/2008 12:19 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

well I'm certainly no expert and I can only theorize, but as for sending a signal to certain parts of the earth I can come up with a few ideas.

1) there may be areas of the earth due to certain mineral content are natural receptors to this energy, and can be targeted by frequency of signal

2)use of the earths magnetic fields to direct a signal to a certain latitude

3)use of magnetic,and or gravitational properties of the moon and or sun to direct a signal to a certain longitude

4)placement of multiple (include mobile i.e. ship mounted) antennae arrays creating the ability to force a signal to a certain geographical location

5)actual receivers placed at specific geographical locations to receive, direct or bounce a signal

just a few theories

starting points at least

Agreed, starting points, but some of the would take way too much coordination and some are so crazily complex as to make ones head spin. Ever heard the old saying that of-times the simplest explanation is the most accurate? The earth moves and has earthquakes from time to time. LONG history of this. [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
LONG before HAARP or the Tesla stuff was even a dream. How can all the current earthquakes be related to HAARP when there is such a long history of similar stuff? Did you know how much energy is in a single earthquake event? A Mag 4.0 is equivalent to a small nuclear weapon, or 1000 TONS of TNT, while a Mag 7.0 is equivalent to the LARGEST thermonuclear weapon EVER detonated, or 32 million TONS of TNT. What about earthquakes that this kind of energy would need to go through some 2000 to 4000 feet of water, such as ones at subduction trenches, like this current one off shore Japan? How do they get the energy through that?

I'm actually not trying to attack you with this, no matter how the above may sound. I'm trying to point out the Cruise boat size holes in the idea that HAARP causes earthquakes. I know I will not convince the converted. I've not a problem with it. I'm putting out the opposing side so anyone really confused about the issue knows what the scale and situation is.
 Quoting: Geogal 373387



Yes, Geogal we could certainly apply Occams razor to my ideas,but you must consider in this age of modern technology the incredible complexity of systems, say for instance television(you mean the can control that electron magnetically at that speed and send it right to the point on the CRT they want to?)or computer chips(you mean they can put that much information on a chip that size?)

I don't personally think the guv is using HAARP to quake other countries but its an interesting idea

now,if I wanted to quake a spot on he globe,I would look into sending a directed shockwave through the earth, sympathetic vibration and the like, Remember,it only take a small force to push the boulder over the cliff,the rest is stored kinetic energy,so again we come to the idea of a bias and swing vote.

I don't feel attacked, if we had the answers there would be no need for discussion right? Simply that there is a lot to th universe we don't know about, they might.

Honestly, I believe it was natural, but a good mental exercise to imagine how.Additionally consider the power of a nuclear blast,and how few people could have imagined that power coming from a few pounds of matter say 100 years ago.

We just don't know.


I simply replied to you post and haven't read the rest of the thread so if anyone else chimes in, give me some time,thanks.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 394453
7/19/2008 1:29 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Yes, Geogal we could certainly apply Occams razor to my ideas,but you must consider in this age of modern technology the incredible complexity of systems, say for instance television(you mean they can control that electron magnetically at that speed and send it right to the point on the CRT they want to?)or computer chips(you mean they can put that much information on a chip that size?)

I don't personally think the government is using HAARP to quake other countries but it is an interesting idea

Now,if I wanted to quake a spot on the globe,I would look into sending a directed shockwave through the earth, sympathetic vibration and the like. Remember,it only take a small force to push the boulder over the cliff,the rest is stored kinetic energy,so again we come to the idea of a bias and swing vote.

I don't feel attacked, if we had the answers there would be no need for discussion right? Simply that there is a lot to the universe we don't know about, they might.

Honestly, I believe it was natural, but it can be a good mental exercise to imagine how,if not.Additionally, consider the power of a nuclear blast,and how few people could have imagined that power coming from a few pounds of matter say 100 years ago.

We just don't know.
 Quoting: confusefed 394453



fixed a few typos and edited for clarity
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470626
7/19/2008 2:28 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

...CALIFORNIA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470252


Orange County is expected to be the epicenter of the west coast tsuanami hit with widespread destruction throughout the entire county and areas due north of.
Geogal
User ID: 373387
7/19/2008 6:06 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Yes, Geogal we could certainly apply Occams razor to my ideas,but you must consider in this age of modern technology the incredible complexity of systems, say for instance television(you mean they can control that electron magnetically at that speed and send it right to the point on the CRT they want to?)or computer chips(you mean they can put that much information on a chip that size?)

I don't personally think the government is using HAARP to quake other countries but it is an interesting idea

Now,if I wanted to quake a spot on the globe,I would look into sending a directed shockwave through the earth, sympathetic vibration and the like. Remember,it only take a small force to push the boulder over the cliff,the rest is stored kinetic energy,so again we come to the idea of a bias and swing vote.

I don't feel attacked, if we had the answers there would be no need for discussion right? Simply that there is a lot to the universe we don't know about, they might.

Honestly, I believe it was natural, but it can be a good mental exercise to imagine how,if not.Additionally, consider the power of a nuclear blast,and how few people could have imagined that power coming from a few pounds of matter say 100 years ago.

We just don't know.




fixed a few typos and edited for clarity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394453

LOL! That's pretty cool that you went back to fix typos.

I DO understand what you mean and are saying about current tech and so on. Silica is a pretty wonderful crystal, yes. But, with computers I understand the conduit to get info and electrons to a specific point and connectivity. But, there is tech that comes along all the time that is mind blowing. When the light bulb and electricity came about that was also a mindblowing thing for that day and age. So, who knows what will be common in the future.

I agree that the potential of earthquake tech is absolutely fascinating. The idea that forcing small earthquakes to happen to relieve the fault stress to reduce the energy of natural and forcefully huge earthquakes does tickle the imagination. It fascinates me enough that I've taken time to research the subject and learn what I can about the potential tech. It is also one reason I do say I'm open to what there is going on out there and am willing to change my mind on things I know and have an opinion on. I'm never closed to learning nor exploring potentials.
Geogal
User ID: 373387
7/19/2008 6:25 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

...CALIFORNIA.


Orange County is expected to be the epicenter of the west coast tsuanami hit with widespread destruction throughout the entire county and areas due north of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470626


Mind clarifying that... that statement is pretty confusing. here's some basic definitions as to why it's confusing. Orange County, in-land area, has many faults, yes. Most of which are max magnitude of Mw7 something or less. Land based earthquakes cannot start a tsunami. An area "hit" by a tsunami is normally near the coast and from an off-shore earthquake. An off-shore earthquake that can cause this kind of devastation doesn't appear in California until farther north pretty much past the triple junction in Medocino County. Orange County is within a basin, for the most part, surrounded by fairly tall mountains which would absorb most earthquake energy and not allow something like that to "spread". One of the sides is facing towards the ocean. The major fault in the general local area, and most other California faults, has a north-west trend, and THAT'S where the energy tends to travel.
Earth420
User ID: 470700
7/19/2008 6:28 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

Still listed as
2008-07-19 02:39:30.4 37.63 N 142.13 E 30 Mw 6.8 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

And I have this theory I call "ping pong effect"...
I think
2008-07-19 09:27:04.1 11.01 S 164.38 E 35 f Mw 6.8 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION

Could have something to do with it, a "pattern" I have been anticipating...

Peace
Geogal
User ID: 373387
7/19/2008 6:34 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Oh and Geogal, I'll id myself as mike.........

Registering hasnt worked for me. I dont know what I am doing wrong, but I havent really felt compelled to find out....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 461397

Mike, and anyone else interested in the moon-earthquake theory....

Found something interesting that has a reasonable attempt at explaining the phenomena.
[link to satellite.ehabich.info]
"During the Hawaiian earthquake magnitude 6.7 on Sunday, 15.Oct. 2006, the Moon was seen passing over the area of Hawaii. The earthquake was the strongest in two decades. On these maps and movies the moon image represents the "sublunar point", which is the area where the Moon exerts the greatest gravitational force on Earth: (ref. [link to tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov]
There's pretty good reference material to follow to it and diagrams. just a FYI, but absolutely interesting!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 467831
7/19/2008 6:36 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

I agree that the potential of earthquake tech is absolutely fascinating. The idea that forcing small earthquakes to happen to relieve the fault stress to reduce the energy of natural and forcefully huge earthquakes does tickle the imagination. It fascinates me enough that I've taken time to research the subject and learn what I can about the potential tech. It is also one reason I do say I'm open to what there is going on out there and am willing to change my mind on things I know and have an opinion on. I'm never closed to learning nor exploring potentials.
---------------------------

research earthquakes in Australia!!

The group's partially blind guru, Shoko Asahara began more as a megalomaniacal con ... mind control, laser and particle beams -- even an earthquake-machine.

The American NGO dealing with Nature and earthquakes, Mutual UFO Network Eastern USA, received and made public the following eyewitness information about the 1999 earthquake from Turkey:

[link to www.turkpulse.com]
Earth420
User ID: 470700
7/19/2008 7:08 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

Note even the depths of these 2 quakes are almost the same...

Peace
Earth420
User ID: 470700
7/19/2008 7:09 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

As well as the depth of this one
2008-07-19 22:39:10.7 17.20 S 177.88 W 33 mb 6.3 FIJI REGION

Close as well...

[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

Peace
The Screamer
User ID: 429261
7/19/2008 9:37 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

I don't think I have EVER seen so many 6+ mag EQs on a single day. There are FOUR right now and the day is not over yet.
bricks
scream

5.3 SOUTHWEST OF SUMATRA, INDONESIA
6.4 FIJI REGION
5.3 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
5.2 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
6.3 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
5.6 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
6.7 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION
5.3 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
7.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 455519
7/19/2008 9:39 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

hey homey....what pattern?
xo

[link to www.emsc-csem.org]

Still listed as
2008-07-19 02:39:30.4 37.63 N 142.13 E 30 Mw 6.8 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

And I have this theory I call "ping pong effect"...
I think
2008-07-19 09:27:04.1 11.01 S 164.38 E 35 f Mw 6.8 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS REGION

Could have something to do with it, a "pattern" I have been anticipating...

Peace
 Quoting: Earth420
Earth420
User ID: 470700
7/19/2008 10:04 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

If you were a true homie
455519


You dont spell it that way...

Tell your others that okay?

Peace
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 455519
7/19/2008 11:02 PM
Re: 7.0 JapanQuote

i guess it depends on which part of the galazy one's from, eh?
still love ya no matter hows youse spells it.

now ya gonna answer my question about what "pattern?"

If you were a true homie
455519


You dont spell it that way...

Tell your others that okay?

Peace
 Quoting: Earth420
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