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Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in Debt

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Ron Paul Is A Tool
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7/19/2008 9:25 AM
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I think this story says a lot about the true nature of Ron Paul angryface
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 434311
7/19/2008 9:28 AM
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you can't get blood from a turnip
Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2008 9:32 AM
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I think this story says a lot about the true nature of Ron Paul angryface
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Firstly, everyone needs to take personal responsibility and make their own choices. Secondly, he was gay and dies of viral pneumonia, *DING*. Did it ever occur to you that he had HIV? Maybe he ran over his catastrophic coverage. Anyway, it was his own decision and none of your business.

Nothing to do with RP.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 434311
7/19/2008 9:35 AM
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What I mean is that this guy may have been better off without insurance, trying to copay this and that

So many pay in to the HC system for years and get little or no benefit
I am healthy and insured through my employer, and haven't even USED the coverage.. I had coverage for years I didn't need or use. That's a fucking slush fund they have ..

No one will pay that guys 400k... they already did .. fuck the insurance scam, the health care system is self supporting if you do away with the paper pushing that ins . cos entail..

The scam is designed around putting people to work doing nothing.
MEANWHILE we have this huge crisis with the elderly who paid and paid and now if they only have medicaid they get worse care than prisoners?

I am serious. I have a relative who worked in high end nursing home and even that care was shit. THey hire minimum wage people with horrible attitudes to take care of the most vulnerable people? That's insanity.

Get all the paper pushers trained to change diapers and take vital signs and read and talk to these people, instead of sitting in an office doing data entry.

ONE BIG SYSTEM ONE ONE ONE

COMpetition is killing people
literally
and profit seeking is disgusting
and indefensible
totally


What were you saying?
Ron Paul Is A Tool
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7/19/2008 9:41 AM
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Dieing with massive debts and expecting them to be written off.

Gotta love that libertarian "look after yourself" attitude. angryface

Is Ron Paul a bugger too? butt dubya
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468465
7/19/2008 9:44 AM
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How the fuck does this say anything about Ron Paul's nature??

Dying with massive debt?? As if he died (SICK, IN the HOSPITAL) ON PURPOSE ????

Yep. Some Americans ARE stupid!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470505
7/19/2008 9:45 AM
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I think this story says a lot about the true nature of Ron Paul angryface
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 Quoting: Ron Paul Is A Tool 469284


So you're telling us Ron Paul should pay this guy's medical bills?

Do Barack Obama or McCain pay their staffers medical bills?

I can't afford health insurance either.

Maybe McCain or Obama will cover me.
Ron Paul Is A Tool
User ID: 469284 (OP)
7/19/2008 9:53 AM
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Would Dr. Paul's libertarian philosophy make him inclined to be for or against any government sponsored or mandated assistance to obtain insurance for those who can't otherwise afford it?

Was Dr. Ron Paul this buggers attending physician?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468465
7/19/2008 9:58 AM
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Would Dr. Paul's libertarian philosophy make him inclined to be for or against any government sponsored or mandated assistance to obtain insurance for those who can't otherwise afford it?

Was Dr. Ron Paul this buggers attending physician?
 Quoting: Ron Paul Is A Tool 469284


How old are you?? 10??

And no, Dr. Paul isn't ANYBODY'S attending physician!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 402664
7/19/2008 10:01 AM
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I think this story says a lot about the true nature of Ron Paul angryface
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And I think you're a Jackass.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 459083
7/19/2008 10:06 AM
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So, you're are still afraid of Ron Paul getting the GoP nomination? lol.

I bet this post was straight from the McCain campaign office.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470515
7/19/2008 10:10 AM
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So, you're are still afraid of Ron Paul getting the GoP nomination? lol.

I bet this post was straight from the McCain campaign office.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 459083
GraftedPromise U$ofA
User ID: 470551
7/19/2008 10:54 AM
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Ron Paul is a threat ... and a real one.

Now "they" are still playing "nice".

BUT ... it won't be for long.

Especially when the TwinCities event takes place.

And "they" will have to do a lot of voter fraud to stop votes for Ron Paul in November.
Ron Paul Is A Tool
User ID: 469284 (OP)
7/19/2008 11:02 AM
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What a testament to the Libertarian creed, which abhors the idea of universal health care. This loyal, passionate man who died too young left his family a debt of $400,000 in medical bills.

Ron Paul posted this message about Snyder on his website: ""Like so many in our movement, Kent sacrificed much for the cause of liberty, Kent poured every ounce of his being into our fight for freedom. He will always hold a place in my heart and in the hearts of my family."

Sadly, the Libertarian heart apparently does not include health care. The poor guy raised tens of millions of dollars and couldn't afford the $300-$600 a month that COBRA medical insurance would have cost. angryface

A website has been created to help raise the $400,000 to pay the medical bills.
[link to www.opednews.com]

How many of you Paultards are going to pony up some cash to pay off this buggers debt? angryface
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 57834
7/19/2008 11:12 AM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

the guy was a knowqn gay.
Viral Pneumonia is end stage aids.
No company would have insured him, so the hospital gets a write off. Who cares?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 321058
7/19/2008 11:13 AM
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when will you glpers ever learn its just wrestling there is no good guys...



you guys think Alex would endorse Ron Paul.... alex now endorses Mark from Michigan... recently released from jail


You Remember Mark)he used to co host radio with John Stadmiller Alex jones now ex buddy


He know says fu to john Stadmiller and now says hello to Mark from michigan


they fucking control both sides always will its just wrestling...


trust no one Repeat Trust no one....

YOU are own your own


================================================


I have seen Ron Paul cave on so much it was obvious he was the release vale for the patriot moviment



Alex is now best buds with Arnold Schwantz best buddie Jessie The bodie Ventura...

He recently after not deciding to help us by running for senator said Politics is just like Wrestling...

You remember how much Alex has put down the Arnold Girlie man.... you might want to ask why he kisses the ass of Jessie the Bodie....




Trust no one there is only one agenda and that is team Illuminati
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 57834
7/19/2008 11:17 AM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

You can't just "get " health insurance with chronic illness. They won't cover you.
Does anybody here have a fucking clue?
Ron Paul Is A Tool
User ID: 469284 (OP)
7/19/2008 11:23 AM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

Ron Paul knew this bugger was dabbling in poo and therefore was uninsurable.

This bugger raised 35 Million for Paul.

Paul should pay this buggers 400,000 dollar debt. It would be the honorable thing to do. However, like all other politicians, Paul will prove himself to be dishonorable with regard to this matter.
36burrows
User ID: 468266
7/19/2008 11:50 AM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

This thread fails
"AIG Bailout keeps America Great" - CNBC
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 469039
7/19/2008 11:55 AM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

You can't just "get " health insurance with chronic illness. They won't cover you.


Does anybody here have a fucking clue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57834


No, not really.

Ron just scares the poop out of them, that's all.
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Luke 16:17
User ID: 470588
7/19/2008 2:18 PM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

How the fuck does this say anything about Ron Paul's nature??

Dying with massive debt?? As if he died (SICK, IN the HOSPITAL) ON PURPOSE ????

Yep. Some Americans ARE stupid!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 468465

"he left medical bills totaling over $400,000."

That was 2 months in the hospital.
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Rota
User ID: 469821
7/19/2008 3:03 PM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

What I mean is that this guy may have been better off without insurance, trying to copay this and that

So many pay in to the HC system for years and get little or no benefit
I am healthy and insured through my employer, and haven't even USED the coverage.. I had coverage for years I didn't need or use. That's a fucking slush fund they have ..

No one will pay that guys 400k... they already did .. fuck the insurance scam, the health care system is self supporting if you do away with the paper pushing that ins . cos entail..

The scam is designed around putting people to work doing nothing.
MEANWHILE we have this huge crisis with the elderly who paid and paid and now if they only have medicaid they get worse care than prisoners?

I am serious. I have a relative who worked in high end nursing home and even that care was shit. THey hire minimum wage people with horrible attitudes to take care of the most vulnerable people? That's insanity.

Get all the paper pushers trained to change diapers and take vital signs and read and talk to these people, instead of sitting in an office doing data entry.

ONE BIG SYSTEM ONE ONE ONE

COMpetition is killing people
literally
and profit seeking is disgusting
and indefensible
totally


What were you saying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 434311

You are right. But it isn;t just healthcare. In every part of society you have people who do nothing but push pencils conforming to government regulations but yet with all this regulation banks are still failing and people routinely get ripped off. Its all a total waste of time, money and effort. The only thing it does is employ a bunch of lazy useless lard asses. Gives them bigger salaries than the people who work and produce real products.


The feds are the biggest obsticle to real progress in this country. Without all their red tape this country would be much more prosperous.


.
Rota
User ID: 469821
7/19/2008 3:33 PM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

Paul should pay this buggers 400,000 dollar debt. It would be the honorable thing to do. However, like all other politicians, Paul will prove himself to be dishonorable with regard to this matter.
 Quoting: Ron Paul Is A Tool 469284

Thats right. He was white so he should pay. If we let all white people skip on their bills then how can the illegals and generational welfare recipiants get free medical care?

.
TX PATRIOT
User ID: 440969
7/19/2008 4:43 PM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

You can't just "get " health insurance with chronic illness. They won't cover you.
Does anybody here have a fucking clue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57834



Which includes diabetes and high blood pressure in case people are not aware.

If you are self-employed and have diabetes or hypertension you cannot purchase health insurance; the companies will not cover you. Full stop.


Stats:

Per the CDC, there are an estimated 24 million Americans with diabetes, which is 8% of the US population. Type II diabetes increased by three million Americans in two years from 2005-2007. There are an estimated 57 million people who are "pre-diabetic".

In 2006, it is estimated that between 28-30% of the entire American population has hypertension with 37% more with "pre-hypertension" or high blood pressure.

-----

Hospital cost perspective:

Last year an ER visit for a shot to treat a wasp sting cost almost $700, and we never even spoke to a Dr.

A two-day hospital stay in CO to diagnose/treat a sudden onset seizure several years ago cost $35K. The competence across the board - doctors and nurses - was horrendous...almost non-existent.....and quite dangerous for the patients. They completely screwed up the diagnosis and the treatment. Gave us a "We don't really know why it happened" along with a bill for $35K.

Interestingly, in a similar situation years ago in Mexico City (a Spanish hospital), we received hospital services and care that, in our experience so far, have been unmatched.

The US healthcare system is completely run by profit mongers without concern or focus on the patient. It is appalling, especially when one has a comparison, but the system will not be any better and will most likely be worse when run by our government given their track record, I'm afraid.


Stepping off my soapbox.

.
Rota
User ID: 469821
7/19/2008 6:04 PM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

You can bet just like everything else your name is on a list. Micro-managed right down to the fine print, If you come up as a peasant with no connections or influence they will overcharge, give wrong diagnosises and hope you go broke and die a slow painful death.

Already the insurance companies have a green light to deny all first time claims on the calculated tactic that only 50 percant will come back and dispute it. Those are the only people that have a chance to collect much of anything.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 466178
7/19/2008 6:06 PM
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Of course if it wasn't for the FDA and the AMA medical cartel keeping prices artificially high, Kent would have only had to pay about $50,000 for his medical care.

About what it would cost in India where the AMA and FDA aren't in control.
Lemuria
User ID: 440503
7/21/2008 3:23 AM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

Ron Paul knew this bugger was dabbling in poo and therefore was uninsurable.

This bugger raised 35 Million for Paul.

Paul should pay this buggers 400,000 dollar debt. It would be the honorable thing to do. However, like all other politicians, Paul will prove himself to be dishonorable with regard to this matter.
 Quoting: Ron Paul Is A Tool 469284

Why should Ron Paul pay for his medical. Ron Paul cannot take money from the campaign to give to the hospital. What is the matter with you people? Think...Think...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424156
7/21/2008 4:49 AM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

hiding Sounds to me like the OP is the BACKSLIDER one who slides though life on the AMERICAN PEOPLES work effort. They know who they are!! In the New World they will find their EXACT VALUE, because there is NO PLACE for their kind of work in the New World. AGAIN Backsliders!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471263
7/21/2008 4:57 AM
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The faggot may have died from the drugs or his lifestyle but he did not die from HIV.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 234704
7/21/2008 5:03 AM
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The causes of AIDS in First World countries most probably are overuse of toxic drugs--by legal prescription (e.g., AZT) as well as illicit use (e.g., the nitrite inhalants known as poppers that are used to enhance sexual capability)--and multiple and repeated infections with venereal diseases;
Dr. Peter Duesberg, retrovirologist, author: Inventing the AIDS Virus
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 466463
7/21/2008 7:24 AM
Re: Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Dies Uninsured, $400,000 in DebtQuote

Ron Paul knew this bugger was dabbling in poo and therefore was uninsurable.

This bugger raised 35 Million for Paul.

Paul should pay this buggers 400,000 dollar debt. It would be the honorable thing to do. However, like all other politicians, Paul will prove himself to be dishonorable with regard to this matter.
 Quoting: Ron Paul Is A Tool 469284


What an awful ungraceful thing to say about a deceased. you ought to watch Sicko as many who get sick are uninsured or have a pre-existing except not so in civilized countries.

Ok, guys.Why should someone who collects money FOR getting elected NOT to buy yachts, homes or pay debts of workers of huge amounts DIVERT funds YOU sent him for the presidential race to personal issues of friends and employees?

It would be honorable to instead ask for a memorium set up for the guys family situation but why pay the rip off bankers hospital scheme???It's a way over charge any way.Pay for his funeral and help his kids if he has them but as a Memorium for being such a good campaign manager.He wasn't a scammer campaign manager or else he wouldn't owe the $400,000.

It appears Senator Ron Paul is doing the movement of integrity. I do wonder about some of his abstain votes on crtiical issues like impeachment in the past and other critical abstentions.
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