For years now there has existed a method of extracting the hydrogen gas from water that can be used as a fuel more powerfull then both diesal and petrol.
Kinda sickens me too know that our governments are most definitly NOT on the right track with where they are leading the human race when this technoligy has been suppressed for so long and when we continue paying ridiculous money for oil which has been mined at the cost of hundreds of thousands of peoples lives through wars and tactics.
Heres one video of a couple of COLLEGE students.. who have put together a device that uses the hydrogen gas too fuel a burner.. which can burn through glass. These guys are college students, which pretty much discounts the whole idea that you have too be a rocket scientist too be able too this yourself.
Pretty cool huh?
This is an energy that we must harness ourselves. Quit sitting around waiting for it too come too a shop near you because it aint gonna happen. People have died trying too show the world this technoligy. Its up too the people too introduce this into society one by one.
(( I dont have time too answer all the emails cuz loads of people are emailing me asking me for the blueprints too making a gas torch. I can tell ya where i got mine, mine is a physical book so i cant just email it too anyone and i dont have time to reply too all the emails.You can get a step by step guide here : [link to devinelife.water4gas.hop.clickbank.net]
I personally know 11 people whom are doing this. Backyard guys that know about automobiles. These guys are not engineers or have graduated from our "SUPERIOR" colleges.
I CANNOT believe that the auto industry has been so negligent if the last 40-50 YEARS. I DON'T WANT ANY TAXES TO BUY THESE GUYS OUT OF THEIR FINANCIAL TROUBLE. It is their selfishness and greed that has the American public in the shape it is in.
If they had done what is being done now, we would NOT be in our current situation. I blame us, the public for allowing this to happen, but if we're going down, I want them going down with us. If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
OP do you have any further info about this method?
I would love to try and build one.
Thanks!
Quoting: Pollyannuh
I would contact and get the info if one wants it
Those in the know are onto it and have been working towards it but most know the risk from the moneygrubbers with 15 chins...
Stan Meyers was about to put plans out for about 1000$ for everyone. He was going to attempt 'open source' as much as he could-settled with a minimal amount...and then he died,QUICKLY...
He was offered millionsssss
he turned them down believing it was for the masses(tesla maneuver-sure to shorten ones life)Like Tesla wanted to open source Wireless and the power for all-basically freeeeeeeeee(free was free in those days...)
JP Morgan and his minions(rockefellar+)could not have that...and now everyone can pay $100-$$$1000s per month for this-
opensource,lol
even IT who want to opensource have to fight the gaTes or whomever,those who would make enormous profit for selling another program or another solution, the UltIMate...until they develop another product or another piece of toxic plastic
Stan Meyers is dead and of course it happened shortly before he was to bring it mainline
Others for many yrs have been threatened or have died-or others have accepted unbelievable payouts to sit on their inventions
Those oil cabal boys(enronnnn,shell,mobil,BP) and their great providers(cough, cough, cough) pesticide(monsaton,dupont,dow,)-food(Monsaton,dupont,mcdonal d)-
Pharma(Lilly,Merck,Phillip Morris,etc)-corporate whores of finance
food,meds,poisons,and fuel made by the same guys more often then not
RICO laws could they even apply????Mafia-strange how so many yrs ago they actually were recognized in many meetings-but no one was suppose to say it...like the illuminati
later many try and swear they do not exist-same as the illuminati...weird connections
rome-wow,how many connect these items when they are paying extra for every can they buy or every loaf of bread
those untaxed folks get everyone elses' taxes(built into the cost of everything you buy)via the purchase
google Stan Meyer and it will bring you alot of info on this kind of tech
just remember to keep it quiet except to 1-2 close folks once you get it to work for you(or copy the designs and give them out to many) Just remember to watch your back
or have close friends to help cover you
(do not claim leadership or,well, most already know)
CountryJoe down a long dirt road is my domain User ID: 447201 7/19/2008 2:15 PM
the gas that is being produced is called "hydroxy"..it's a gaseous combination of hydrogen and oxygen. the totally cool property of this gas when used for cutting/welding is that the flame goes instantly to the melting point of whatever substance it touches..tungsten for example, over 5000F melting point, yet the tip of your welding torch remains only warm to the touch.. some kind of atomic reaction that cannot be fully explained yet... anyway you can build a booster and use on your vehicle for increase mileage..i'm getting 10 more mpg with a booster than without. now looking into a more efficient true sealed series cell for more gas/less power input.
check out youtube videos on smacks boosters for the DIY..play and experiment safely though...this shit is highly explosive and dangerous around dummies! Each of us-
A cell of awareness-
Imperfect and incomplete.
Genetic blends
With uncertain ends
On a fortune hunt that's far too fleet.
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A GOOD FEW YEARS AGO, ON THE BBC, "TOMORROWS WORLD" THEY SHOWED A WORKING BROWNS GAS OXY-ACETELYNE METAL CUTTING SYSTEM. IT WAS NOT ONLY SIMPLE BUT EFFECTIVE AND MORE EFFICIENT.
1. NO HEAVY GAS BOTTLES
2 NO SAFETY STORAGE PROBLEMS
3. JUST FILL THE TANK WITH WATER
4. PLUG IT INTO ANY MAINS
5 LIGHT THE TORCH
6. CUT METAL.
AND ITS SEEMS TO HAVE COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED.
GL
Ignatius J. Reilly User ID: 452961 7/19/2008 2:22 PM
I personally know 11 people whom are doing this. Backyard guys that know about automobiles. These guys are not engineers or have graduated from our "SUPERIOR" colleges.
I CANNOT believe that the auto industry has been so negligent if the last 40-50 YEARS. I DON'T WANT ANY TAXES TO BUY THESE GUYS OUT OF THEIR FINANCIAL TROUBLE. It is their selfishness and greed that has the American public in the shape it is in.
If they had done what is being done now, we would NOT be in our current situation. I blame us, the public for allowing this to happen, but if we're going down, I want them going down with us.
Quoting: Queen
Personally I attended an alternative fuel rally 30 yrs ago and there were alot of people
but they were marginalized through the years
Many were silenced
MANY
I know of several personal contacts that are gone and some are being harassed for pursuing alternative fuels to such an extent they are legally harassed or electronically 'nuanced'...(torture by guile)I also met this one who has an actual hydrogen powered car-he has created other stuff-some wideband tech(cough,cough) and he was in Time or Newsweek-but where is the car I know about-saw-etc???Why isn't it taking off-and this was close to 7-10 yrs ago.
So it is not all the people-Many who do are stopped. Stopped by those who are desperate to squeeze 'ALL' out of the people for themselves-profits of SOME kind-
Many are tranced by their TVs
or their psychotropic drugs convinced they are somehow a 'misfit'
or their bad marriages
few enjoying their good marriages
bad jobs,no jobs
looking for jobs
moving systems to get murders prosecuted
or pursuing kidnappers,"evildoers"
healing others,finding harmony and balance
keeping up with the new depression that is totally marvelous and robust-so 'they' say-so few are worried like the wealthy-as so few have any investments other than their weekly grocery bill
or whatever
The individual must take care of their own business
but the whole system is corrupt and much of that is the refusal of many to self discipline-so a corrupt system is enabled by apathy and laziness,ignorance and a host of reasons(does not justify but puts it in realistic terms)
We do not live in a bubble-many other energies intersect with our own-daily,hourly,and few realize the ripples they leave...and how they impact each other
time for the INNOVATIVE THINKERS to move on their own ideas and not through the kit in the mail
Stan Meyers never went to college-so anyone can do this-but do wear goggles and be safe
if you have the padded foam suit might want to put fire protectant on it.
be safe and do not broadcast too loudly-or be silenced it would SEEM
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470215 7/19/2008 2:28 PM
Open source the info free on the internet, detailed plans or else it's all a lie.
Quoting: Ignatius J. Reilly 452961
I would but i made mine by following the instructions out of a book, so i cant post it here and i dont have time too scan all the pages. I might eventually but im very busy at this moment in time.
But i assure you, its no lie. Im getting 20mpg more out of my corrolla after installing a fuel cell and my brother made a gas torch that will burn through a car engine.
I have been experimenting with an electrolyzer in my garage.
I started with this spiral electrode configuration, but I want to try stacked plates next.
This is my helmet. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. ~Patrick Henry
Anonymous Coward User ID: 357422 7/19/2008 2:49 PM
A GOOD FEW YEARS AGO, ON THE BBC, "TOMORROWS WORLD" THEY SHOWED A WORKING BROWNS GAS OXY-ACETELYNE METAL CUTTING SYSTEM. IT WAS NOT ONLY SIMPLE BUT EFFECTIVE AND MORE EFFICIENT.
1. NO HEAVY GAS BOTTLES
2 NO SAFETY STORAGE PROBLEMS
3. JUST FILL THE TANK WITH WATER
4. PLUG IT INTO ANY MAINS
5 LIGHT THE TORCH
6. CUT METAL.
I have been experimenting with an electrolyzer in my garage.
I started with this spiral electrode configuration, but I want to try stacked plates next.
Quoting: Evil Twin
Very cool. The one i use on my Corolla is the exact same!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 357422 7/19/2008 2:53 PM
Very cool. The one i use on my Corolla is the exact same!
Are you getting any mileage improvements?
Quoting: Evil Twin
Yup. As it stands im now getting an average of 58mpg.
Before i was getting around 40mpg.
I was full sure that it would reduce my power but i was pleasently surprised that it doesnt. It just goes too show how effective this method of power could be if it was refined.
How about you? What car are you using and how is it working out for you
Evil Twin Forum Moderator User ID: 470606 7/19/2008 3:08 PM
Very cool. The one i use on my Corolla is the exact same!
Are you getting any mileage improvements?
Yup. As it stands im now getting an average of 58mpg.
Before i was getting around 40mpg.
I was full sure that it would reduce my power but i was pleasently surprised that it doesnt. It just goes too show how effective this method of power could be if it was refined.
How about you? What car are you using and how is it working out for you
Quoting: Whatttt
I haven't installed an electrolyzer in mine yet, still in the experimental stage on the bench. I did hook up a water vapor system, which boosted my F150 w/ a 5.0 v8 by about 3 mpg on the highway.
I've been kinda sidetracked the last couple months with other projects.
This is my helmet. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. ~Patrick Henry
I told a friend to just shut up about the oil drilling in America. I don't care if gas goes to 20 dollars a gallon, oil is not the problem. Keeping the new technologies HIDDEN for so long is the crime. We let them do this because it was cheap and we didn't care. It took this for us to wake up, I want everyone awake and I now realize it make take 200% more just to get everyone to realize that you have been taken as FOOLS.
I WILL NOT discuss corn convert to oil, or drilling or the price of OIL. Go to 2200 a barrel, KOOL. AUTOMAKERS are you listening, gave over you lost. If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
I told a friend to just shut up about the oil drilling in America. I don't care if gas goes to 20 dollars a gallon, oil is not the problem. Keeping the new technologies HIDDEN for so long is the crime. We let them do this because it was cheap and we didn't care. It took this for us to wake up, I want everyone awake and I now realize it make take 200% more just to get everyone to realize that you have been taken as FOOLS.
I WILL NOT discuss corn convert to oil, or drilling or the price of OIL. Go to 2200 a barrel, KOOL. AUTOMAKERS are you listening, gave over you lost.
Quoting: Queen
I agree completely. I cant stand having a conversation about alternative ways such as drilling oil somewhere else or doing this or doing that too improve the OIL situation when there are ways that could be refined that would provide FREE energy.
Thats why i posted this, so people would start investing their time into doing this for themselves. Never mind waiting for a government reform because it aint gonna happen. Its up too the people to do this one by one on their own.
OK, it is common knowledge that it takes far more energy to create hydrogen and oxygen from water via electrolysis than you can recover in an internal combustion engine.
And it isn't even close, it's like 5 units of energy input for 1 unit recovered.
BUT, occasionally there are ways to cheat the universe out of free energy.
But they ALWAYS involve tapping into some resevoir of existing energy. Like petroleum is one such resevoir of energy. It contains stored energy so it doesn't take as much energy to simply pump it to the surface as you can recover burning it.
Burning cordwood releases stored solar and chemical energy in the wood etc.
What is the trick here? What is the resevoir of energy being exploited? Because it isn't water.
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