Ummm, how much energy does it take to MAKE Hydrogen? How does one do that, anyway?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470740
I guess now the hydrogen cell will be classified as a WMD and become an invasion factor. Just think, of all the money Saddam could have saved if he'd just made hydrogen instead of all those weapons of mass destruction.
I really find it hard to believe that these guys are MAKING hydrogen, converting yes but when the shrills claim they are making hydrogen I realize that they just don't know how to think outside the box. That's the real problem here. If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
The electromagnetic spectrum starts at sound and goes through the light spectrum all the way thru ultraviolet to radiation spectrum. When I was taught in school these were different spectrums (OK I'm showing age here).
Alot of information is coming to light and alot of it has such a foreign ring to it. To evaluate these new technologies you are going to have to think outside the box and quit accepting the ceiling that has been placed upon you. You think things are the way they are, but maybe, just maybe we've been mislead and the power inside is just as the bible claims. The power is within.
I've explained this to my children like;
A horse has free will, it has the power to pull the carriage behind it. It can go anywhere it wants and if the rider of the carriage let's it go without guidance the horse is in control but also in chaos. When the horse turns over his free will to the driver, it is still in control but it understands the minute signals that the carriage driver indicates to the horse. The horse is still in control, it still has the power and it still can make decisions. If the horse does not take the first turn as indicated by the driver of the carriage, it can be directed to the next street to try to divert it back to the main course to be taken.
That is an example of giving your free will over to god. Let him guide your life but realize you still have the choices to make. Believe everything you hear or use your own skills to discern whether you are travelling the correct path.
ABOVE ALL, don't believe that you don't have a choice and it's all predestination. Lucky for us, the driver also listens to us and wants us to have everything we want as long as we're prepared to accept it with all of the responsibilities. If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470877 7/20/2008 4:23 AM
I personally know 11 people whom are doing this. Backyard guys that know about automobiles. These guys are not engineers or have graduated from our "SUPERIOR" colleges.
I CANNOT believe that the auto industry has been so negligent if the last 40-50 YEARS. I DON'T WANT ANY TAXES TO BUY THESE GUYS OUT OF THEIR FINANCIAL TROUBLE. It is their selfishness and greed that has the American public in the shape it is in.
Quoting: Queen
It's not negligent, it has not the right to use them !
Free energy is known since a long time but CANNOT come to the public because there is too much money involved, imagine all the petrol money gone with such a dscovery !
you should read urgently this book :
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470884 7/20/2008 4:41 AM
Look at how much further ahead we would be, but all they could do is argue about the Law of Thermodynamics". Words are cheap, action creates a better future. Ask Bill Gates, IBM didn't believe him either.
Quoting: Queen
It is a documented fact that Gates lied his way into IBM just like you hydrogen 'tards that can't seem to grasp the reality of Thermodynamics are doing, and Gates' crap STILL doesn't work right.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 465230 7/20/2008 4:42 AM
It is Obvious you are on their side(TPTB, Money Grubbers)
There have been Many Devices and Technoliges that HAVE Been Proven and PULLED from the Market Place.
One such item is The BURK 2 Stroke Engine. Have you Herd of it.
It was 95%+ fuel effecient and the Gvt OUTLAWED IT.
Quoting: Old School. 470836
No it wasn't, and no they didn't.
Another funny one is how scammers always end up fire bombing their own "laboratories" where their "records" and "proof" supposedly were, and then claiming gov't or the oil industry or somebody did it lol. Then they disappear with the investors' money or turn up dead because some investor they screwed got them whacked, and behold, a legend is born lol.
Post your evidence or STFU.
That's you, the nibiru people, the chemtards, and every other flavour of idiot that lives here.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470444 7/20/2008 4:50 AM
when are you 'tarded children going to stop posting fantasy and post some evidence. It's not enough for you to panhandle your fellow citizens for welfare money to pay for your brain medicine, now you want to panhandle the universe itself for 'free' energy.
stop worrying about mooching stuff for free, and figure out if your miserable dead ass is capable of contributing anything of value to anyone.
my guess is 'no'.
Welfare leeches.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470730
HEY! YOU ARE A PAID DEBUNKER! I recognize you. How much per hour? Or is it per post? I need extra money - hehe!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 469020 7/20/2008 5:02 AM
when are you 'tarded children going to stop posting fantasy and post some evidence. It's not enough for you to panhandle your fellow citizens for welfare money to pay for your brain medicine, now you want to panhandle the universe itself for 'free' energy.
stop worrying about mooching stuff for free, and figure out if your miserable dead ass is capable of contributing anything of value to anyone.
my guess is 'no'.
Welfare leeches.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470730
TO 470730
This one knows that that there hardly a way back for him to the Shadowless Light. This must hurt like hell, you are poor lost sucker.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 465089 7/20/2008 5:12 AM
Another funny one is how scammers always end up fire bombing their own "laboratories" where their "records" and "proof" supposedly were, and then claiming gov't or the oil industry or somebody did it lol. Then they disappear with the investors' money or turn up dead because some investor they screwed got them whacked, and behold, a legend is born lol.
Post your evidence or STFU.
That's you, the nibiru people, the chemtards, and every other flavour of idiot that lives here.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470884
What is you reason for coming here?
There is no info. for you here.
Well, I see, the word, 'chemtards' blows your cover, which rather bad in the first place.
So, what are your reasons for coming here, 'clear-minded genus'?
Since my premise is to make something simple that works I used a pair of stainless steel scrub buds, yes, those things you use in the kitchen for cleaning pots and pans.
Wire windings and multiple plates are all about surface area, the available surface area in a "scrub bud" is many times anything you put together with plates or wires.
Try it, it's simple! "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
Anonymous Coward User ID: 469020 7/20/2008 5:31 AM
what do you need to brake a glass without any physical contact? Hit it with right frequency!
you can brake strong molecular bonds too with little power.
there shall be other ways.
Imagination is the key. Not an academic degree.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469020
Anonymous Coward User ID: 465089 7/20/2008 5:46 AM
"My daughter told me she ran into a proposal to tax these types of devices 1500 as year. I guess someone in the government thinks there's something to it."
How the fuck do we EVER shake off these motherfucking parisitical LEECHES, government and mega-cartels??
Do you think for one second that the founders of this nation ever intended ANY of what this sick, putrid, disgusting, perverted, corrupted, scum-sucking government has turned into?
It is WAYYYYY past time for an armed revolution in this cesspool of greed and corruption called Amerika!!!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470884 7/20/2008 5:50 AM
What is you reason for coming here?
There is no info. for you here.
Well, I see, the word, 'chemtards' blows your cover, which rather bad in the first place.
So, what are your reasons for coming here, 'clear-minded genus'?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469020
Is english your 'second language', or are you just a retard?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470884 7/20/2008 5:58 AM
"My daughter told me she ran into a proposal to tax these types of devices 1500 as year. I guess someone in the government thinks there's something to it."
How the fuck do we EVER shake off these motherfucking parisitical LEECHES, government and mega-cartels??
Do you think for one second that the founders of this nation ever intended ANY of what this sick, putrid, disgusting, perverted, corrupted, scum-sucking government has turned into?
It is WAYYYYY past time for an armed revolution in this cesspool of greed and corruption called Amerika!!!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465089
Typical glp chemtard, unsubstantiated claims of 'inside info', lame attempts at feigning 'patriotic concern', and finally the call to violent bloodshed. You autistics are animal souls incarnated in human bodies, you're evil, you suck, you're stupid, i hate you, and i hope you psychotic retards all go to hell.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470913 7/20/2008 7:03 AM
"My daughter told me she ran into a proposal to tax these types of devices 1500 as year. I guess someone in the government thinks there's something to it."
How the fuck do we EVER shake off these motherfucking parisitical LEECHES, government and mega-cartels??
Do you think for one second that the founders of this nation ever intended ANY of what this sick, putrid, disgusting, perverted, corrupted, scum-sucking government has turned into?
It is WAYYYYY past time for an armed revolution in this cesspool of greed and corruption called Amerika!!!
Typical glp chemtard, unsubstantiated claims of 'inside info', lame attempts at feigning 'patriotic concern', and finally the call to violent bloodshed. You autistics are animal souls incarnated in human bodies, you're evil, you suck, you're stupid, i hate you, and i hope you psychotic retards all go to hell.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470884
You just displayed all the characteristics of an evil person by calling her 'stupid' , Saying that you 'hate her', telling her she 'sucks' and hoping that she spends the rest of eternity in absolute agony...
"My daughter told me she ran into a proposal to tax these types of devices 1500 as year. I guess someone in the government thinks there's something to it."
How the fuck do we EVER shake off these motherfucking parisitical LEECHES, government and mega-cartels??
Do you think for one second that the founders of this nation ever intended ANY of what this sick, putrid, disgusting, perverted, corrupted, scum-sucking government has turned into?
It is WAYYYYY past time for an armed revolution in this cesspool of greed and corruption called Amerika!!!
Typical glp chemtard, unsubstantiated claims of 'inside info', lame attempts at feigning 'patriotic concern', and finally the call to violent bloodshed. You autistics are animal souls incarnated in human bodies, you're evil, you suck, you're stupid, i hate you, and i hope you psychotic retards all go to hell.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470884
ha ha ha .....what? were you dropped on your head as an infant ac8884, do you have the same abandond feeling as the people continue to evolve leaving you alone looking for feeding once aqain???
you scared?
ya should be ...MmmmmmmmmmmmuHaaahahahahahahahaa
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470884 7/20/2008 8:05 AM
ha ha ha .....what? were you dropped on your head as an infant ac8884, do you have the same abandond feeling as the people continue to evolve leaving you alone looking for feeding once aqain???
you scared?
ya should be ...MmmmmmmmmmmmuHaaahahahahahahahaa
Quoting: boo 470899
Your threats and your weak attempts at trying to key-in somatics and other nlp mischief are meaningless, you are too helpless to even feed yourself. If your aging parents ever kick you out of their basement you will be sleeping behind a dumpster using a puffy rat for a pillow.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470884 7/20/2008 8:12 AM
What is you reason for coming here?
There is no info. for you here.
Well, I see, the word, 'chemtards' blows your cover, which rather bad in the first place.
So, what are your reasons for coming here, 'clear-minded genus'?
Is english your 'second language', or are you just a retard?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470884
Fifth
Anonymous Coward User ID: 469020 7/20/2008 8:22 AM
What is you reason for coming here?
There is no info. for you here.
Well, I see, the word, 'chemtards' blows your cover, which rather bad in the first place.
So, what are your reasons for coming here, 'clear-minded genus'?
Is english your 'second language', or are you just a retard?
Fifth
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469020
to 470884
You are an eternal moron; and you, I hope, know this.
You see, I do not even need to ask you a question whether you are.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470884 7/20/2008 8:24 AM
What is you reason for coming here?
There is no info. for you here.
Well, I see, the word, 'chemtards' blows your cover, which rather bad in the first place.
So, what are your reasons for coming here, 'clear-minded genus'?
Is english your 'second language', or are you just a retard?
Fifth
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469020
You speak five languages yet you believe in 'chemtrails' and hydrogen scams?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 469020 7/20/2008 8:33 AM
"My daughter told me she ran into a proposal to tax these types of devices 1500 as year. I guess someone in the government thinks there's something to it."
How the fuck do we EVER shake off these motherfucking parisitical LEECHES, government and mega-cartels??
Do you think for one second that the founders of this nation ever intended ANY of what this sick, putrid, disgusting, perverted, corrupted, scum-sucking government has turned into?
It is WAYYYYY past time for an armed revolution in this cesspool of greed and corruption called Amerika!!!
Typical glp chemtard, unsubstantiated claims of 'inside info', lame attempts at feigning 'patriotic concern', and finally the call to violent bloodshed. You autistics are animal souls incarnated in human bodies, you're evil, you suck, you're stupid, i hate you, and i hope you psychotic retards all go to hell.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470884
well, 470884 is real psycho, your government is planning mass genocide, depopulation. This is a blood shed for you, swine.
You are the one of those who will go in the first line to shoot your neighbor, brother, mother, if the gov. orders you, just like countless brainwashed solders did it before, and will do it again. You government, like many others (most) shell be put down. And if they oder, business as usual, a carnage, you will be the guilty too.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 469020 7/20/2008 8:34 AM
What is you reason for coming here?
There is no info. for you here.
Well, I see, the word, 'chemtards' blows your cover, which rather bad in the first place.
So, what are your reasons for coming here, 'clear-minded genus'?
Is english your 'second language', or are you just a retard?
Fifth
You speak five languages yet you believe in 'chemtrails' and hydrogen scams?
What is you reason for coming here?
There is no info. for you here.
Well, I see, the word, 'chemtards' blows your cover, which rather bad in the first place.
So, what are your reasons for coming here, 'clear-minded genus'?
Is english your 'second language', or are you just a retard?
Fifth
You speak five languages yet you believe in 'chemtrails' and hydrogen scams?
That may be part of the reason, American. Ha-Ha.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469020
By the way, I can read in seven or even nine to some degree.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470935 7/20/2008 8:55 AM
watercars work. some folks have been quietly running them for years.
yes you can crack hydrogen on demand under the hood safely and elegantly.
if the shilltards saw one in front of them they would scream its a trick!
why, because if they opened their eyes, their little world would crumble. TPTB will push oil until there is no more oil.
then they will pretend to have invented selling us hydrogen
as some next revolution they can make money off of.
by that time hundreds of thousands will be quietly tooling around in their watercars, living the truth, but well understanding the importance of the 'quiet' under the radar part.
the shilltards at that point will be purchasing hydrogen for their cars at some government op gas station. don't forget the cheetos, funyons, hohos and dingdongs!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 361147 7/20/2008 9:23 AM
For years now there has existed a method of extracting the hydrogen gas from water that can be used as a fuel more powerfull then both diesal and petrol.
Kinda sickens me too know that our governments are most definitly NOT on the right track with where they are leading the human race when this technoligy has been suppressed for so long and when we continue paying ridiculous money for oil which has been mined at the cost of hundreds of thousands of peoples lives through wars and tactics.
Heres one video of a couple of COLLEGE students.. who have put together a device that uses the hydrogen gas too fuel a burner.. which can burn through glass. These guys are college students, which pretty much discounts the whole idea that you have too be a rocket scientist too be able too this yourself.
Pretty cool huh?
This is an energy that we must harness ourselves. Quit sitting around waiting for it too come too a shop near you because it aint gonna happen. People have died trying too show the world this technoligy. Its up too the people too introduce this into society one by one.
(( I dont have time too answer all the emails cuz loads of people are emailing me asking me for the blueprints too making a gas torch. I can tell ya where i got mine, mine is a physical book so i cant just email it too anyone and i dont have time to reply too all the emails.You can get a step by step guide here : [link to devinelife.water4gas.hop.clickbank.net]
Quoting: Whatttt
So euhm how much energy did the device need (you saw those electrodes right?) And how do you propose to generate that needed energy?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 470675 7/20/2008 9:35 AM
Please tell me why a California venture capital group has not brought a water car to market?
They are bringing electric cars to market, but if these water cars are so easy, why wouldn't they do that?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470675
electric cars get power from the grid, you can make money on them. the majority will not set up with solar to power their electric cars, they will buy juice from TPTB. so its a potential big money maker for the power brokers disguised as venture capitalists. and the cars are expensive.
water cars get power from water. no way to make money from it. venture capital is not going to sponsor something they cannot profit from. and the cars are cheap to build.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
good vs. evil.
venture capital will swing either way, wherever the bucks are.
it doesn't give a shit about anything but money.
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This is the most stupid and irresponsible thread I've seen on GLP since my 3 years of coming this site. And it is pinned!! Gah. 
