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Start running your car on water, now!

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470935
7/20/2008 9:56 AM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

in simpler terms, the carrion jackasses who hold our tiny family finances ransom by stuffing oil down our throats at every intersection on the roads, is not going to help us liberate ourselves financially wherein they would make nothing and not have gagazillions of untaxed profits flowing into their offshore accounts while they laugh at us for being stupid. they are addicted to the game of cruelty.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470935
7/20/2008 10:02 AM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

what exactly did you think was going on? a tea party with the queen?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357422
7/20/2008 12:05 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

Hydrogen is only an energy carrier. It takes significant energy to make it.


blow me


Why don't you at least post an explanation of how the poster you quoted is wrong.

It does take considerable energy to extract hydrogen from water. That is indisputable.

So please try to actually address the topic seriously. If for no other purpose but to spread the word and educate people.

If all you have as a rational for what appear to be ridiculous claims is "blow me", then I doubt you have the sense to provide credible anecdotal evidence.
 Quoting: loosecannon


Ther is evidence from imformation all OVER this thread to prove that hydrogen can be obtained from water in a way that gives more energy than is used. It is up to you whether you beleive it or not.

If you need more proof, google Denny Klein and John Kanzius. Then google water powered car and see the 2 vehicles currently running in Japan on water power.

Here's a quote from Denny Klein's website.

“The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it.”

– Chinese Proverb
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357422
7/20/2008 12:14 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

[link to hytechapps.com]

[link to hytechapps.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

All ways to produce hydrogen from water and get more energy output than you use.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470985
7/20/2008 1:05 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

I don't know if anyone posted this here before but, anyway,
in June 13 a Japanese company (Genepax) presented a car that runs ONLY on water,

[link to www.reuters.com]

and 12 days later a professor from London said that the Genepax claim was NOT possble

[link to www.reuters.com]

we could be close to a complete revolution on this (very important) area of technology.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470949
7/20/2008 1:14 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

More evidence, as requested, and research in progress at:


[link to www.energeticforum.com]





[link to www.energeticforum.com]



[link to www.overunity.com]
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 1:14 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

Quote:

"My daughter told me she ran into a proposal to tax these types of devices 1500 as year. I guess someone in the government thinks there's something to it."



How the fuck do we EVER shake off these motherfucking parisitical LEECHES, government and mega-cartels??

Do you think for one second that the founders of this nation ever intended ANY of what this sick, putrid, disgusting, perverted, corrupted, scum-sucking government has turned into?

It is WAYYYYY past time for an armed revolution in this cesspool of greed and corruption called Amerika!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465089


NO, that is what they want. They need a reason for martial law, because they don't want the rest to wake up. To many executive orders are in place, it is way pass time for that. Today you need to get this information out, just quit responding to the negative, let it stand for others to see.

STAY POSITIVE. Perform positive actions, get all the information in this thread out, This thread has some very interesting topics.

Water fuel cell,
Healing with sound
Fire and sound.

This crowd of people can change the dynamics, but you cannot do it under martial law, the internet would be one of the first to go.

Ignore the negative, let it fall on the floor, step over it and keep moving.
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 1:26 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

For those that believe this is not even considered, please understand that the governments realize it's impacts and are looking at alternatives. There may very well end up fees for automobiles that use this technologies but I just don't seem to think it's going to stop with automobiles.


This is a 253 page document on the tax fuel for alternative energies. The issue is beind defined as tax evasion for road use since you won't be using as much gasoline energies for gas.

[link to onlinepubs.trb.org]

It is quite lengthy and has quite a number of white coats and educated individuals commenting on the issues.

I agree we should upkeep our roads, but isn't that income taxes takes care of. Besides to have to discuss this, it would appear that someone in higher places believe that this ability has an impact somewhere.

It works, hopefully more will be able to break through the limitations others want you to believe in. Just imagine where this is going to lead.
 Quoting: Queen

If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 1:30 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

In one of the previous threads had a video which claimed that this technology was to polluting. I guess it couldn't be any more polluting than what they are doing with flouride in drinking water. I was wondering if this could be used in some purifing device to get the flouride out of the water.



So you put in 2.5 - 5 units of energy and you get 1 unit of energy back.

A losing proposition.

A genius, doctorate friend of mine describes the laws of thermodynamics like this:

>You can't win

>You can't break even

>you have to play



Deal with thermodynamics, sounds great, but

At gas $4.00 a gallon,

water free

If you can make the 4.00 gallon of water perform as if you've paid 1.00 a gallon, without increasing pollution I'd say I'd try the water.

Of course I do it just because I don't like the deception that's gone on for so long. Automanufactures should have done this say 40 or 50 years ago. Look at how much further ahead we would be, but all they could do is argue about the Law of Thermodynamics". Words are cheap, action creates a better future. Ask Bill Gates, IBM didn't believe him either.
 Quoting: Queen

If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 1:32 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

I just like this and again want to thank those that are working on this. Protection and Prosperity are with you for your actions, rejoice.

Sadly to say, those that are trying this are more on the mechanics of how it works instead of the theories on why it works. The why's would be nice to know, but with the current situation of finding a solution, get it working and then look back and evaluate the why's.

I don't know about engineering so I can offer no explainations, I just wish those that do have training would drop their existing paradygm and look outside the box. The stuff is working, just because it goes against all you've been taught. Electrolysis has been around for the 40 to 50 years, do you really believe that these backyard guys have figured out something that require a mental genius to figure out. No, it takes initiative, vision, and determination to think outside the box and arrive at solutions that help others.

There is no great money in this process, but there is a value in each person to try to help others and curtail the corruption that has been going on for so long. The individuals that have worked at this and provided the information free of charge are gaining respect from those of us that recognize their intelligence, vision, honor, devotion, dignity, esteem and self sacrifice. These individuals have surpassed some of the most wealthy individuals I've known. My prayer is that they will receive the rewards for the efforts they have diligently worked toward.

Anyone, whom can only want answers to thermodynamics, chemical modalities, analysis of cause and effect without placing efforts into evaluating results and offering feedback are in effect no greater that the white coats that have allowed this to go undetected and under evaluated for so long.
 Quoting: Queen

If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 1:44 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

If we can move in a positive direction and give so much money to presidential campaigns, wouldn't it be better suited to contribute to an organization where people are helping each other. How many people could be helped by an organization that works to help these people keep their homes. To qualify you need to work and show that you are out of the game.

Unhook and get your control back:

Use hydrogen fuel cells,
disconnect from the media,
recognize that you as an individual is in control and get rid of the ego.

[link to www.youtube.com]
Ron Paul collected millions, how many people would millions like this help. It would take individuals that know how to work with these banks to negotiate, but if we come together it doesn't have to be a war, it is just a takeback. The takeover was non violent, the takeback can also be non violent. It just means we ALL have to work together.
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 3:20 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470215


For those that don't know about this website. It is most informative. Thanks
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 469233
7/20/2008 3:36 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

battleflagThe Bismarck will weigh in soon! Then there will really be something to talk about. With Guns as Big as Steers and shells as Big as Trees!
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 3:43 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

ET try the oupower web site I posted.

For anyone that is wanting to get serious about this I suggest trying to find information about the Bob Boyce design.

[link to waterfuelforall.com]

[link to waterfuelforall.com]



I played with this stuff for about 3 years the big problem I've had is how to keep it from freezing in the winter.
 Quoting: UD 326579



Here's another. Things get hidden in multi page post. Just bringing things back to the top. This thread had alot of momentum and there's so much more to know.

Besides automative and welding uses, what other technologies can be used.

?
Water Heaters,
Water purification,
Power generation

Imagine the possibilities
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 4:07 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

battleflagThe Bismarck will weigh in soon! Then there will really be something to talk about. With Guns as Big as Steers and shells as Big as Trees!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469233



Odd I looked up Bismack and it was identified as a NAZI war ship.

[link to militaryhistory.about.com]

Are you trying to say something or just trying to gain a little FEAR. I thank you for your comment, but I prefer a NO FEAR direction. Work in the positive and let the negative collapse on it's own. They seem to be doing a great job or themselves. The show by the way is quite comical, Laural and Hardy couldn't have done it this well.
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471018
7/20/2008 4:16 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

thanks for the pin OP, great info.
FYI, what the students made was a good old fashion hydrogen torch. The man who wrote a book on John Keely, manage to find spec's but it took him years. He posted one at the back of the book. The reason it took him years to find the info. was of course, it was surpressed. The reason is there is a secret about H1 that your not supposed to fig. out and if we had kept using the torch, someone would have. The torch burns at a higher heat that anything else(at that time) this is because of an anomily with the molecule H. If they had proceded further investigation into why it was burning, unanswerably, hotter--they would have discovered aether physics then.. they have by the way misnamed "zero point energy", its the aether radiation that permeates everything. Had they fig. that out (common man, not the insiders like tessla)there would have been a revolution in the industries. That would have been our focus instead of the man made plastics and computers. The gov. needed those other things developed, so they kept quiet and hid the aether physics. Combining the aether with other molecular structures in chemistry is what "alchemy"is all about.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471018
7/20/2008 4:30 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote


In one of the previous threads had a video which claimed that this technology was to polluting. I guess it couldn't be any more polluting than what they are doing with flouride in drinking water. I was wondering if this could be used in some purifing device to get the flouride out of the water.

I was just discussing that with my husband! You could route the pure oxygen back into the cab(dont for get the addition of 78%N!)for clean air in the cab. Or you can re route the Oxygen to another tank where it picks up H again and reconstitutes water. Water this way is pure(filtered H)and would by pass the pollution stage it goes through on the outside now. By the way, no ones reporting on the O. content in the air right now. Science will say there is 28% O. and 70%N, and 7%trace gases like argon...etc..
This is not true anymore, and they are hiding from you. The level has been dropping for years. The Oxygen level is dangerously low..Last report I read it was 17%..Most people dont know: low oxygen levels decrease size in organic life forms--gigantism is a sign of high oxygen levels and is in fact the cause of it. One of the symtoms of low Oxygen levels is ADD and ADH. Death occurs at 16.5%
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 469233
7/20/2008 5:27 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

battleflagThat was then and this is now. The ole battlewagon now stands for the reserection of American Ideals such as Liberty, Justice, Freedom of Pursuit of Happynes, Freedom of Self Determination, etc, etc, etc. All of thes ideals are currently no more than an enormous public deception. Put to a test and the establishment will evidence this ugly fact every time. Most people never learn of this cruel reality because fate does not position them to do so. This is the axiom that the eletists use to perpetuate the ongoing fraud that we are taught is Liberty. Liberty is a manmade illusion and I have the evidence to fully support this fact. This has absolutly nothing to do with Nazi's or Germany for that matter, I has to do with plumbing up the New Wvil Empire before there greed can hurl us all into a premature Apacolypse.
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 5:33 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

In foreign countries, they don't have underground fuel lines and use tanks of gas for heating and cooking. Could this technology be used for cooking or as the source for use instead of the gas.

Also note that the water used is no where needed as the tanks needed for gas.
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Whee! 8D
User ID: 470660
7/20/2008 5:39 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

HEY! APPEARANTLY THAT YOU CAN GET ALL OF STAN MEYERS' WORK HERE IN THIS PDF!!! [link to waterpoweredcar.com]

It comes from this website [link to waterpoweredcar.com]
"Stan Meyer's Personal Files

I encourage you to download these .pdf files below. In case this site get's hijacked or disappears mysteriously. Someday we will be able to talk freely on this subject. Today 3/07 it is forbidden to know this stuff, we don't need the stinking black oil. They plan on pumping the ole buried Garden of Eden under Iraq, the Tigris / Euphrates River Valley. All that lush garden decomposed in the world' s finest reserves. Let's leave God's old garden alone. Don't you think? Run a car on water instead. How much record breaking profit are you making in your wallet?
Also I have experienced record breaking global warming this summer, how about you? 8/06. Oil funds the guns, rockets, ammo of the insurgents in Iraq.The fruits bear witness, the war in Iraq is a quagmire, led by false informatiom and a false flag operation."

Visit : [link to www.fueltrips.com]
For other websites about free energy, biodiesel, etc etc!!
You can even buy Hydrogen booster cells!


Other links :
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[link to waterpoweredcar.com]
[link to www.brownsgas.com]
[link to www.runyourcarwithwater.com]
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Without proofs, anything can be True or False.
There is no such thing as good or bad. There are only perceptions and too narrow views of things that prevent us from understanding how everything has a rightful purpose
Number of people who tried to insult me using my TP avatar :11 (Punisher x5) <= People should maybe actually learn to read?
For those who can't figure out that not everyone in this world is born in areas where the main spoken language is english, my first language is not english.
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 5:51 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

Not to ignore anyone but the NWO needs your fears to continue their reign. UNPLUG from the media, do not allow the negative comments into your thought processes, move forward and step over the crap they feed. If you play the game you are going to get burned. I QUIT their game.

Now: moving forward is the gas produced in these cells only oxygen or is it oxygen and hydrogen. Is it breathable, is a mixture of this gas harmful? I don't see how, but I'm curious. Could this be used to create oxygen hyperbolic chambers in the house, would it have health benefits?

When looking at the welder, it re-forms into water as a byproduct. This entire process is just so interesting and I would like to really know WHY it has been ignored for so long. I really am starting to recognize the white coats as what they are, practicing medicine.



I was just discussing that with my husband! You could route the pure oxygen back into the cab(dont for get the addition of 78%N!)for clean air in the cab. Or you can re route the Oxygen to another tank where it picks up H again and reconstitutes water. Water this way is pure(filtered H)and would by pass the pollution stage it goes through on the outside now. By the way, no ones reporting on the O. content in the air right now. Science will say there is 28% O. and 70%N, and 7%trace gases like argon...etc..
This is not true anymore, and they are hiding from you. The level has been dropping for years. The Oxygen level is dangerously low..Last report I read it was 17%..Most people dont know: low oxygen levels decrease size in organic life forms--gigantism is a sign of high oxygen levels and is in fact the cause of it. One of the symtoms of low Oxygen levels is ADD and ADH. Death occurs at 16.5%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471018

If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380853
7/20/2008 6:03 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

I haven't read this complete thread but have question:

How many here is currently running a water powered car? Do you just pull up to a water hose to fill up and go?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471126
7/20/2008 7:33 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

The other thread on this same topic is now up to 26 pages.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Lots of links and information.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471142
7/20/2008 8:09 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

I told a friend to just shut up about the oil drilling in America. I don't care if gas goes to 20 dollars a gallon, oil is not the problem. Keeping the new technologies HIDDEN for so long is the crime. We let them do this because it was cheap and we didn't care. It took this for us to wake up, I want everyone awake and I now realize it make take 200% more just to get everyone to realize that you have been taken as FOOLS.

I WILL NOT discuss corn convert to oil, or drilling or the price of OIL. Go to 2200 a barrel, KOOL. AUTOMAKERS are you listening, gave over you lost.


I agree completely. I cant stand having a conversation about alternative ways such as drilling oil somewhere else or doing this or doing that too improve the OIL situation when there are ways that could be refined that would provide FREE energy.

Thats why i posted this, so people would start investing their time into doing this for themselves. Never mind waiting for a government reform because it aint gonna happen. Its up too the people to do this one by one on their own.
 Quoting: Whatttt



MOST PEOPLE CANNOT DO IT ON THEIR OWN.

WHAT IS NEEDED IS FOR MECHANICS TO LEARN ABOUT THE SYSTEM, AND MAKE A FEW MODELS, AND install it IN THE CARS OF THOSE THAT WANT TO USE IT.

NOW THE ABOVE IS THE PROBLEM, YOU NEED THOUSANDS OF MECHANICS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY DOING IT--it is the only way to make it happen.

So how can the above be accomplished??????????????????????????????????????????????
Queen Subscriber
User ID: 422489
7/20/2008 8:16 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

The other thread on this same topic is now up to 26 pages.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Lots of links and information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471126


Another great link, 25 pages of post, alot of shrills saying it can't be done, shouldn't be done but again the positive attitude prevails. Everyone is ignoring them and not even responding.

Perfect. STAY Positive and don't be drawn into the negative. Just step over them and move on, a brighter future is waiting. This technology is exploding and I just don't think it's going to go away.

Copy everything you can on the technology because the last ditch effort is to close the internet but there is really to many people that are doing this to stop it now.

I am so proud of the individuals that have applied their knowledge and are providing their input freely. You have so much to be proud over, and shame on the people that are trying to stop it.
If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 105691
7/20/2008 8:46 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

Ther is evidence from imformation all OVER this thread to prove that hydrogen can be obtained from water in a way that gives more energy than is used.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357422



no there isn't you damn liar
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 105691
7/20/2008 8:48 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

The man who wrote a book on John Keely, manage to find spec's but it took him years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471018



When John Keely was asked how he wanted to be remembered, he replied "as the greatest humbug of the 20th century".
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470675
7/20/2008 8:54 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

With all the ingenuity of the American inventors, why are there only a few prototypes that claim they can run on water? What is so damn difficult about getting some investors and producing a fleet of these?

The safety standards don't have to be met if its like a golf cart or even a tractor????

This is what leads me to believe this is bullcrap.

Please show me an inventor who has a fleet of these.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 105691
7/20/2008 8:57 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

I am so proud of the individuals that have applied their knowledge and are providing their input freely.
 Quoting: Queen



"The other day somebody asked me for directions so I gave him some, even though I didn't know"
- Homer Simpson
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 105691
7/20/2008 9:05 PM
Re: Start running your car on water, now!Quote

in simpler terms, the carrion jackasses who hold our tiny family finances ransom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 470935


Oh man I know, the airlines have started charging for each carrion. I tried boarding a plane with a buzzard and a vulture and they told me "Sorry sir, we only allow one "carrion" per passenger.
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