"FROM WHERE DID WE GET THE WORD 'CHURCH'?"

Nope, the word Church was derived from Kirk which was derived from Circe, as in Goddess Circe.

Goddess Circe is on record as the temptress who would lure unsuspecting men into her cave and there turn them into pigs.

I don't know about you, but from what I've seen that's a mighty exacting name for those places.

I will say however though, that the "circle" is probably pretty accurate too as long as "jerk" is added to make one big "circle jerk".

The word in Greek for Church is Ekklesia and it comes from Ek = "out of', ' from', 'by', 'away from'.

It means a 'gathering' and 'community' that is away from those that live in earthly reality. In biblical times people gathered and lived in communities like an eco-community today. Each of the prophets had their own followers that built communities and many like Elijah ran prophet schools teaching the ancient mysteries. They lived away from the rest of the people like the Essenes.

Lotus

that kabalistic bs opie

the bible was translated from the hebrew and greek, english arose only later. they can take the english from any kabala word they want, the original hebrew/greek means synagog

:ump:

AC

church is not from the word mosque and sinagog

Dat be True dat.

During all those fist fights of the hundreds of years of "meetings" such as Nicea, all the pagan cultic "god/goddess" religions met to represent their "sacred cow" beliefs in the "exoteric" dogma of their fabricated Bible. And the lovers of Goddess Circe "won" their place in history with the "place" of meeting of the goyim "pigs/swine".

Well, it IS rather comical, no?

now i thing word of mosque came from mosquito which mean bloodsucker
holy crap is that true :p

and synagog came from word sin a gog which mean all gog full of sin :D

but temple is better cause came from word temptation

LMAO
CIRCLE=CIRCUS=CHURCH

pretty much explains everything right there.

I don't know if it's factual or not....but it's sure REASONABLE.....and hiiiillllllllllllaaarrious

meaning of synagogue

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Where is wrongtruth when we need her guidance ?

There are several here that were right!!

CHURCH

This finds one origin in the Greek Circe, the goddess of deception who lured men into her lair and transformed them into pigs.

Jordan Maxwell correctly points out that this is the same thing that is done by that which we call the physical Church.

The difference is that the latter is done mostly with our consent.

The actual origins of the word Church goes back to Egypt. In Scottish (Gaelic) the word for church is Kirk, a derivation of Circe.

We get the words circus and circle from this goddess name also. Many "holy" cities, shrines and precincts were designed upon the circle. (Michael Tsarion, Astrotheology)



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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
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Such wit, such wisdom, how can I ever compete?



___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
[link to www.paganlibrary.com]

didn't tsarion also say that when they were 'porting' languages to new locations they would change the 't' and 'th' to 'c' and 'ch' and flip the other letters around thus:

Tarot = Truth = Thoth

Truth = Church

I like the Circe/Circle/Circus allegory too.


I read someone's thesis once which contended all conflict and war is actually seeded by language and fueled by misinterpretation.

And the 'gods' came down and confused the languages of men as a way of controlling them, keeping them at conflict with themselves.

What if those 'gods' were really already here on the earth - just smarter than the standard stock of people.

I always marvel how some words that have the same sound have opposite meanings in different languages.

the prefix 'con' means against or opposing in latin-derived english, yet in other romance languages it means 'with', as in Spanish.

The gods who created these languages were real jerks, apparently!

i am but a poor grasshopper....chirp

The word rendered church is from the Greek "ecclesia" and we have derivatives like 'ecclesiastical" etc. it means "CALLED OUT" and the Biblical context is a community that is called out to be separate and holy,like a priesthood of believers. That's its actual provenance.

The Dread Goddess

Kirke (Circe) is the daughter of Helios (the Sun) and Perseis, which would make her the grand-daughter of Okeanos (Ocean).

On her island... in her palace... Kirke waits for lost sailors to come wandering to her door as supplicants. Normally, a traveler is treated as a special guest but with Kirke, travelers are drugged and then served as dinner.

Odysseus and his desperate crew went ashore on the island of Aiaia hoping to find food and water. Odysseus sent twenty-three men to explore the island but only one returned. As the men walked from the beach they could hear sweet singing from Kirke’s home in a forest glen. Wild lions and wolves (drugged by Kirke) came, wagging their tails, to greet the strangers. They were charmed by her beauty and drank the potions she offered as refreshment. As Kirke’s vile drugs took effect, the once valiant men began to change shape and were soon fully transformed into swine. Kirke herded them into pens and threw pig food on the ground before them.

The sole survivor, Eurylochos, ran back to Odysseus and urged that they set sail immediately. He told the story of the evil goddess and how they would all be turned into swine if they dared to stay on that dangerous island (his warnings unfortunately took on the air of cowardice... Odysseus almost killed him for it). Odysseus was not afraid. He would not leave his men as swine and he would not risk any of the other men in a fight with Kirke. Odysseus went to Kirke’s palace alone.

Along the trail, Odysseus met Hermes (the messenger of the Immortals) in the guise of a young man. Hermes told Odysseus that he could entrap Kirke and free his companions if he obeyed the gods orders. Hermes reached down and pulled a plant called ‘moly’ from the ground and explained that mere mortals found it difficult to dig-up but he, as a god, could do all things. Odysseus took the ‘good medicine’ and went boldly into Kirke’s house. She welcomed him as another victim and gave him her vile potions but the ‘good medicine’ gave Odysseus protection. When Kirke thought the drugs had taken effect, she struck Odysseus with her wand. The wand was supposed to complete the transformation process but Odysseus drew his sword and sprang upon her. The astonished Kirke surrendered instantly. She released the twenty-two pig-men and ceremoniously anointed them with another one of her potions. The men were restored to their original forms but they were taller and more handsome than before they had been enswined.

To show her good faith, Kirke opened her doors to the dispirited sailors and gave them every comfort she could offer. After the entire crew had been rested and nourished, Kirke told Odysseus that his journey would now take him to the House of Hades (lord of the Underworld). He must consult with the soul of the seer, Teiresias the Theban, to find out how he may finally appease Poseidon (lord of the Sea) and return to his home.

After seeing the soul of Teiresias the Theban, Odysseus returned to Aiaia. Kirke bid him a final goodbye and told him how to safely sail past the island of the Sirens, the six headed Skylla and the monster Kharybdis (Charybdis).

Kirke and Odysseus had two children, Agrios and Latinos.
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did you play games age of mythology

hail Odysseus for his braveheart , his never leave his friends alone

Yes the false gods were jerks in the extreme!!

Mankind has been ruled by divide and conquer!!

Religion, (Judaism vs christianity, vs christianity, etc)

Racism, (Whites vs blacks, jews vs goyim, etc)

Nationalism, (USA vs Russia, etc)

Sexism, (Male vs female, etc)

Politics, (Dems, vs Repubs, etc)

Economics, (those who have vs those who have not)

The biggest divide and conquer was the division of mankind through the confusion of the languages by the false god YHVH at babel..

They really must have busted a gut in laughter with this one!!




___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
[link to www.paganlibrary.com]

oops

Well yes you must be!!
Your honesty is over whelming!!



___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
[link to www.paganlibrary.com]

i think you miss one dumb religion how about islam vs sudan
and ottoman empire

Religion, (Judaism vs christianity, vs christianity,muslim vs all non muslim etc)

Racism, (Whites vs blacks, jews vs goyim, etc)

Nationalism, (USA vs Russia, etc)

Sexism, (Male vs female, etc)

Politics, (Dems, vs Repubs, etc)

Economics, (those who have vs those who have not)

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its better fair play i think :p

shia vs sunni
hindu vs islam
christian vs catholic
atheist vs all dumb god follower

and the truth is theres no truth

Arch

Urch

Ur

Harch

Church ==

Archons/Elite/Elders

High place

But in theology its "group or gathering place"

sorry no evidence lol

A few more meanings of the holy words!!

AMEN
Here we have a name from the Egyptian sidereal period, their sun-god and highest divinity. Yet we have at the end of every Christian prayer the word Amen. Amen is the sun and one of the earliest Egyptian gods.

HOLY
Derives from the same root as halo, hallowed, hail and hello, etc,. All come from Helios, the sun. Halos were shown as a effulgent aureole around the head of a saint or elevated person. Occasionally, they represent the rings of the planet Saturn.

MONK
Certainly this has to do with the moon. However, the actual monks are a product of the Saturnian Cult and their dogma. This is why they had the habit of cutting a round circle on the top of their heads. Same as the Jewish yarmulke. These signatures were analogues to the planet Saturn, with its conspicuous rings. The Christian priests wear the one white ring around their necks, above their black dresses to also commemorate Saturn. Originally, before the solar cult strengthened their dominion, Saturday was the major day of worship for early Judeo-Christians.

DEACON
This may seem unfamiliar until one remembers that the word is the same as decan, the section of 10 degrees that each of the 12 houses of the zodiac are divided into. So, a Deacon or Arch-Deacon gets his name because his original duties in the time of the Stellar Cult was to watch the stars, their stations and motions. Such a personage was titled in accordance with his function. A Deacon was nothing more than an astrologer who watched the stars by night.

NUN
This word has also hardly changed in centuries. The earliest goddess of the Stellar period, of the primordial abyss and night sky, called Nun. She was the great virgin. She was also associated with the fish, (Nun means fish). This refers to the Vesica Piscis, the symbol of the great Creatrix. So today we have the "Nuns of Christ" who are also known as the chaste "Brides of Christ." We also derive our word noon from Nun.

Noon was never 12 midday, but 12 midnight, when the goddess was seen above in the night sky. The nocturnal dome was her great womb and the planets and stars were seen as the inseminating spermatozoon's or seeds with her. The sun too was seen this way. It was the "seed" of God entering her womb or ovum every morning, resulting in life and fruition and abundance.  It is for the same reason why it became customary to light great fireworks on special zodiacal days, to represent the seeds of light being planted in the celestial womb for a bright tomorrow.

ATONEMENT
In the Christian religion we are told to seek atonement with God and for our sins. However, what we are not told is that the word means Aton-ment, suggesting oneness with Aton, the Semitic Adonai. Aton also gives us words like Eaton.

EMMANUEL 
This is an Anglicized version of the ancient OM ON EL, the names of the Sun, and of Saturn. Also derives from Ammon-El. Ammon was the sun god. Am, was the Semitic and Indo-Germanic sun-god. (See Albert Pike's Book of the Words)

ADON (ADONAI) -
Means, “Possessor,” “Owner,” “Husband,” or “Lord of the Woman,” “Master.”

LUNA 
This name of the moon, really means Alone. The moon was called the "Lone One." Another common name of the moon was Min (see minute) or Mon (see money). Later when the Solar Cult took over persons of this previous cult became rebuked as "monsters" or "lunatics."

GENESIS
Really means the Genes of Isis or Generation of Isis. This is because the original story in that so-called first book of the Bible is really an Egyptian Sidereal Tale, taught to initiates in the great Nile temples. Moreover, the syllable Gen means "woman" or "queen." In fact this latter word derives from it. "Queen" came from qwen or gwen. Gwyn, guen or gwen (which also means "white"), also gives the Celtic word Guinevere, meaning "fair woman," or "white queen." The original "White Queen," was not so much Guinevere, but Isis, Egyptian goddess of the moon, wife of Osiris, the original King Arthur. This fascinating name also gives Guin-Eve, that is Queen Eve, relating to the primal parent, thus confirming the esoteric status of the Arthurian legends. Gyn meant woman, hence gynecology. We also get the drink Gin, named so because it was favored by women. The word Genes (passed down from the mother), Jini, Genealogy and the female name Jean also come from it. "Genius," is called so, because this was someone who was infused with the Muses, the female creative force.

A child who was a genius was called so because his "genes" were good, meaning that his mother was the cause of the skills. 'Genius' implied that one was favored by the goddess. In India we find the term Guna, meaning inherited traits. We also get genetics, genealogy, gentle and gentry from it. A "gentleman" was one that had the feminine sensibilities awakened. One of the figures that stood for the female and still does, is the letter or symbol X (from XI, the Greek, pronounced She). This is why cars still often bear the phoneme X or XI, etc., to subliminally feminize them. And this symbol is found on other product logos also. The syllable Gen, also means garden. Genesis can mean, the Garden of Isis, referring to the Earth or even the Universe which we, her children, inhabit. 




___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
[link to www.paganlibrary.com]

what reason abraham marry egypt woman do you know ?
is that woman knowing about egyptian secret literature ?