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Anonymous Coward User ID: 373878 United States 01/26/2009 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Get used to it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 510528Yes, we are going to have to get used to it. The power company did not turn off his power, but restricted power. We, being all of us, cannot manage to support every 93 yo who cannot get to a shelter when the weather is severe. We don't have the resources. Period. This guy probably did it "his way" and may be better off for it. We are not to judge. I heat only half my house in the winter, and if it gets really cold, like single digits, I heat only one room. We'll all have to figure out how to make it with what we've got. I've grown accustomed to 60 degrees inside the house. If it gets super cold, I can heat my house only to 45-50 degrees, then have to bundle up, but I survive. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 599633 United States 01/26/2009 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't people in Michigan ever heard of down comforters, and electric blankets? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516120 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 516120 United States 01/26/2009 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OKAY DOWN THEN. My mom grew up in Euprope in the freaking Carpathian Mountains. They didn't have any electricity. They had a fireplace and down beds and comforters. They all were okay. What do you think people in the pioneer days did in the midwest? Unions suits, wool blankets, etc. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 599633 United States 01/26/2009 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how touching that the media promotes and people accept the idea that it's our job and responsibility to micro-manage everyone's lives so that everyone stays safe, no matter what the cost to our freedoms in the process. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 569109 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 01/26/2009 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OKAY DOWN THEN. My mom grew up in Euprope in the freaking Carpathian Mountains. They didn't have any electricity. They had a fireplace and down beds and comforters. They all were okay. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516120What do you think people in the pioneer days did in the midwest? Unions suits, wool blankets, etc. Sure, where I live they heat their homes with their barbeques. Then they're surprised when they wake up dead from the carbon monoxide... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 569109 United States 01/26/2009 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | again, that's why collapses are necessary parts of society.. to bleed away the excesses, and start anew. bloated empires need cleansing now and then. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 599633 United States 01/26/2009 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | people these days are just completely oblivious how good they have it.. they take everything for granted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 569109again, that's why collapses are necessary parts of society.. to bleed away the excesses, and start anew. bloated empires need cleansing now and then. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 558244 United States 01/26/2009 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the empathy on this thread is amazing. the old guy FROZE to death. he might not have been ready to go yet. might've had a hot date at the nursing home that evening. being cold, really cold, is not fun. it hurts. at least he is not hurting anymore now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 202319 United States 01/26/2009 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh well.. at 93, he led a long full life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 569109Oh well . . . 569103 you are an asshole. ------------ You can judge a society by how they treat their elderly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 597142Anyone past at least 90 should be guaranteed utilities no matter what--make that 80. At that age people can lose the ability to keep up with the vital necessities. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 601518 United States 01/26/2009 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am calling those bastards - this is totally unacceptable!@!!! what if that was their father, or brother or uncle - Bay City Electric Light & Power 900 S. Water Street, Bay City, Michigan 48708 Phone: 989-894-8350 Fax: 989-893-7121 mayor Charles M. Brunner 301 Washington Ave. Bay City, MI 48708 989-894-8189 or 989-894-8171 [email protected] and for those of us a little more upset, maybe we should report a homicide to the police department Bay City Police Department 501 3RD ST BAY CITY, MI 48708 989-892-8571 |
The Monk User ID: 515245 United States 01/26/2009 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BAY CITY, Mich. - A 93-year-old man froze to death inside his home just days after the municipal power company restricted his use of electricity because of unpaid bills, officials said. Quoting: that's not right.. 599633Marvin E. Schur died "a slow, painful death," said Kanu Virani, Oakland County's deputy chief medical examiner, who performed the autopsy. Neighbors discovered Schur's body on Jan. 17. They said the indoor temperature was below 32 degrees at the time, The Bay City Times reported Monday. [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Oh, that's a big time no no. That city is screwed. It's punishing someone with death for not paying a bill. There should be some criminal wrongdoing in this case. |
Inspiringmind User ID: 585954 United States 01/26/2009 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, I feel bad for the guy, but couldn't he have found a way to pay the bill? Heating program, some charity place pay it? Get a letter from his doctor saying because of his health he needs the electric on? $1,000 is an awful lot of unpaid money. That isn't one or two monthly bills not paid. If they limited it though couldn't he have gone to his breaker and turned everything off but the kitchen and the heater? He could have even turned off the heater and gone out and bought an electric blanket or an electric heater. Also, they said that the electric company polices were going to be looked at, but that they did nothing wrong. |
The Monk User ID: 515245 United States 01/26/2009 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how touching that the media promotes and people accept the idea that it's our job and responsibility to micro-manage everyone's lives so that everyone stays safe, no matter what the cost to our freedoms in the process. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 599633I hope bad things for you in the near future Yeah, I agree. I have a 93 year old grandmother and if that had happened to her I would be out for blood. I would be profiling and terminating, one at a time. |
The Monk User ID: 515245 United States 01/26/2009 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, I feel bad for the guy, but couldn't he have found a way to pay the bill? Heating program, some charity place pay it? Get a letter from his doctor saying because of his health he needs the electric on? $1,000 is an awful lot of unpaid money. That isn't one or two monthly bills not paid. If they limited it though couldn't he have gone to his breaker and turned everything off buy the kitchen and the heater? He could have even turned off the heater and gone out and bought an electric blanket or an electric heater. Quoting: InspiringmindI have a 93 year old grandmother. My father and I have to do everything for her, lucky she has us. This old man may not have known what was going on. Shame on the city's social workers for overlooking this guy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 202319 United States 01/26/2009 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, I feel bad for the guy, but couldn't he have found a way to pay the bill? Heating program, some charity place pay it? Get a letter from his doctor saying because of his health he needs the electric on? $1,000 is an awful lot of unpaid money. That isn't one or two monthly bills not paid. If they limited it though couldn't he have gone to his breaker and turned everything off buy the kitchen and the heater? He could have even turned off the heater and gone out and bought an electric blanket or an electric heater. Quoting: InspiringmindAlso, they said that the electric company polices were going to be looked at, but that they did nothing wrong. Your suggestions are rather complicated for a 93 year old. He may have had Alzheimer's or short term memory loss making it impossible for him to be cognizant to the extreme danger he was in or with the inability to know what to do. The extreme cold was enough to incapacitate him to get the immediate life saving help he needed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 601518 United States 01/26/2009 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A letter I sent to the mayor Dear Mayor, Look I don't usually write emails to mayors or anyone for that matter that isn't a friend or relative - BUT I HAD to write to you regarding the murder of that 93 year old man who froze to death because his electricity was turned off!!!!! I want this investigated, stopped, others spared the same stupid fate in your backward little city that kills people instead of helping them. What if that was your grandfather, father, brother uncle! Heads MUST roll for this MUST!!!!! This is absolutely the most horrendous, awful thing I have read about the degredation of our country that I have heard since Bush lied us into war!!!!! Shame shame shame on all those responsible and all those accomplices, and complacents that allowed this to happen to a 93 year old grandfather!!! A public apology is DEMANDED! Not for me - but for our collective soul that has been slapped in the face by this inhumanity done to a fellow human being! -ac and for those of you who think it wasn't their fault - I am sorry but ANYONE WHO LIVES IN -30 TEMPERATURES KNOWS THAT SHUTTING OFF A PERSONS SOURCE OF HEAT IS A DEATH SENTENCE!!!!! A 93 YEAR OLD DUDE! we actually ARE our brothers keepers!!!!! SO YES, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CARE! |